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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next RFC 5/5] vhost_net: basic tx virtqueue batched processing
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 01:19:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170928011724-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16ea7512-d770-21ef-edb6-3ada51f08592@redhat.com>

On Wed, Sep 27, 2017 at 10:04:18AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2017年09月27日 03:25, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2017 at 04:02:35PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > This patch implements basic batched processing of tx virtqueue by
> > > prefetching desc indices and updating used ring in a batch. For
> > > non-zerocopy case, vq->heads were used for storing the prefetched
> > > indices and updating used ring. It is also a requirement for doing
> > > more batching on top. For zerocopy case and for simplicity, batched
> > > processing were simply disabled by only fetching and processing one
> > > descriptor at a time, this could be optimized in the future.
> > > 
> > > XDP_DROP (without touching skb) on tun (with Moongen in guest) with
> > > zercopy disabled:
> > > 
> > > Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2650 0 @ 2.00GHz:
> > > Before: 3.20Mpps
> > > After:  3.90Mpps (+22%)
> > > 
> > > No differences were seen with zerocopy enabled.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
> > So where is the speedup coming from? I'd guess the ring is
> > hot in cache, it's faster to access it in one go, then
> > pass many packets to net stack. Is that right?
> > 
> > Another possibility is better code cache locality.
> 
> Yes, I think the speed up comes from:
> 
> - less cache misses
> - less cache line bounce when virtqueue is about to be full (guest is faster
> than host which is the case of MoonGen)
> - less memory barriers
> - possible faster copy speed by using copy_to_user() on modern CPUs
> 
> > 
> > So how about this patchset is refactored:
> > 
> > 1. use existing APIs just first get packets then
> >     transmit them all then use them all
> 
> Looks like current API can not get packets first, it only support get packet
> one by one (if you mean vhost_get_vq_desc()). And used ring updating may get
> more misses in this case.

Right. So if you do

for (...)
	vhost_get_vq_desc


then later

for (...)
	vhost_add_used


then you get most of benefits except maybe code cache misses
and copy_to_user.







> > 2. add new APIs and move the loop into vhost core
> >     for more speedups
> 
> I don't see any advantages, looks like just need some e.g callbacks in this
> case.
> 
> Thanks

IUC callbacks pretty much destroy the code cache locality advantages,
IP is jumping around too much.


-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-27 22:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-22  8:02 [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] batched tx processing in vhost_net Jason Wang
2017-09-22  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 1/5] vhost: split out ring head fetching logic Jason Wang
2017-09-22  8:31   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-25  2:03     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-22  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 2/5] vhost: introduce helper to prefetch desc index Jason Wang
2017-09-22  9:02   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-25  2:04     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-26 19:19   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-27  0:35     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-27 22:57       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28  7:18         ` Jason Wang
2017-09-28  0:47   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-28  7:44     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-22  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 3/5] vhost: introduce vhost_add_used_idx() Jason Wang
2017-09-22  9:07   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-09-26 19:13   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-27  0:38     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-27 22:58       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28  0:59         ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-28  7:19         ` Jason Wang
2017-09-22  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 4/5] vhost_net: rename VHOST_RX_BATCH to VHOST_NET_BATCH Jason Wang
2017-09-22  8:02 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 5/5] vhost_net: basic tx virtqueue batched processing Jason Wang
2017-09-26 19:25   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-27  2:04     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-27 22:19       ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2017-09-28  7:02         ` Jason Wang
2017-09-28  7:52         ` Jason Wang
2017-09-28  0:55   ` Willem de Bruijn
2017-09-28  7:50     ` Jason Wang
2017-09-26 13:45 ` [PATCH net-next RFC 0/5] batched tx processing in vhost_net Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-27  0:27   ` Jason Wang
2017-09-27 22:28     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-28  7:16       ` Jason Wang
2017-09-26 19:26 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2017-09-27  2:06   ` Jason Wang

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