From: "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
To: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, pbonzini@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com,
ehabkost@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] kvm: x86: export vCPU halted state to sysfs
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2018 21:15:15 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180201201514.GB660@flask> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180201125441.2f5b4fdd@redhat.com>
2018-02-01 12:54-0500, Luiz Capitulino:
>
> Libvirt needs to know when a vCPU is halted. To get this information,
I don't see why upper level management should care about that, a single
bit about halted state that can be incorrect at the time it is processed
seems of very limited use.
(A much more sensible data point would be the fraction of time when VCPU
was running or runnable, which is roughly what you get by sampling the
halted state.)
A halted vCPU it might even be halted in guest mode, so KVM doesn't know
about that state (unless you force a VM exit), which would complicate
the collection a bit more ... but really, what is the data being used
for?
User might care about the state, for obscure reasons, but that isn't a
performance problem.
> libvirt has started using the query-cpus command from QEMU. However,
> if in kernel irqchip is in use, query-cpus will force all vCPUs
> to user-space since they have to issue the KVM_GET_MP_STATE ioctl.
Libvirt knows if KVM exits to userspace on halts, so it can just query
QEMU in that case and in the other case, there is a very dirty
"solution" that works on all architectures right now:
grep kvm_vcpu_block /proc/$vcpu_task/stack
If you get something, the vcpu is halted in KVM.
> This has catastrophic implications to low-latency workloads like
> KVM-RT and zero packet loss with DPDK. To make matters worse, there's
> an OpenStack service called ceilometer that causes libvirt to
> issue query-cpus every few minutes.
I'd expect that people running these workloads can setup the system. :(
I bet that ceilometer just mindlessly collects everything, so we should
be able to configure libvirt to collect only some stats. Either libvirt
or upper layer would decide what is too expensive for its usefulness.
> The solution proposed in this patch is to export the vCPU
> halted state in the already existing vcpu directory in sysfs.
> This way, libvirt can read the vCPU halted state from sysfs and avoid
> using the query-cpus command. This solution seems to be sufficient
> for libvirt needs, but it has the following cons:
>
> * vcpu information in sysfs lives in a debug directory, so
> libvirt would be basing its API on debug info
(It pains me to say there probably already are tools that depend on
kvm/debug.)
It's slightly better than the stack hack, but needs more code in kernel
and the interface is in a gray compatibility zone, so I'd like to know
why does userspace do that in the first place.
> * Currently, only x86 supports the vcpu dir in sysfs, so
> we'd have to expand this to other archs (should be doable)
>
> If we agree that this solution is feasible, I'll work on extending
> the vcpu debug information to other archs for my next posting.
>
> Signed-off-by: Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>
> ---
> diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> @@ -6273,6 +6273,7 @@ void kvm_arch_exit(void)
>
> int kvm_vcpu_halt(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> {
> + kvm_vcpu_set_halted(vcpu);
There is no point to care about !lapic_in_kernel(). I'd move the logic
into vcpu_block() to be shared among all architectures.
> ++vcpu->stat.halt_exits;
> if (lapic_in_kernel(vcpu)) {
> vcpu->arch.mp_state = KVM_MP_STATE_HALTED;
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-01 20:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-01 17:54 [RFC] kvm: x86: export vCPU halted state to sysfs Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-01 20:15 ` Radim Krčmář [this message]
2018-02-01 20:26 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 13:53 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2018-02-02 14:14 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 14:15 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 14:19 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-02 14:21 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 14:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 14:55 ` [libvirt] " Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 15:07 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-02 15:25 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 16:23 ` [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2018-02-02 15:19 ` Eric Blake
2018-02-02 17:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2018-02-02 17:38 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 15:08 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2018-02-02 15:22 ` [libvirt] " Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 15:51 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2018-02-02 15:54 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-02 16:01 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 16:07 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 16:19 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2018-02-02 17:42 ` [libvirt] " Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 18:50 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 20:09 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 20:19 ` [libvirt] " Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 20:41 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-02 21:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 21:54 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-05 13:43 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2018-02-05 13:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-05 15:37 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-05 16:10 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2018-02-05 16:36 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-05 22:50 ` Eduardo Habkost
2018-02-06 2:04 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 15:55 ` [libvirt] " Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-06 10:29 ` Viktor Mihajlovski
2018-02-06 14:05 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 12:47 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-02 13:46 ` Luiz Capitulino
2018-02-02 12:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-02-02 13:49 ` Luiz Capitulino
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