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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	mhillenb@amazon.de, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested
Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2018 13:17:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180711201759.GB3593@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ee4d6fd-02e2-2c73-36a7-36ef4f6413b0@de.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jul 11, 2018 at 08:31:55PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> So why is the rcu_virt_note_context_switch(smp_processor_id());
> in guest_enter_irqoff not good enough? 
> 
> This was actually supposed to tell rcu that being in the guest
> is an extended quiescing period (like userspace).
> 
> What has changed?

As I understand it, they would like to have their guest run uninterrupted
for extended times.  Because rcu_virt_note_context_switch() is a
point-in-time quiescent state, it cannot tell RCU about the extended
quiescent state.

Should we replace the current calls to rcu_virt_note_context_switch()
with rcu_kvm_enter() and rcu_kvm_exit()?  Would that be better
than the below architecture-by-architecture approach?

							Thanx, Paul

> On 07/11/2018 07:03 PM, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Wed, 2018-07-11 at 09:49 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >> And here is an updated v4.15 patch with Marius's Reported-by and David's
> >> fix to my lost exclamation point.
> > 
> > Thanks. Are you sending the original version of that to Linus? It'd be
> > useful to have the commit ID so that we can watch for it landing, and
> > chase this one up to Greg.
> > 
> > As discussed on IRC, this patch reduces synchronize_sched() latency for
> > us from ~4600s to ~160ms, which is nice.
> > 
> > However, it isn't going to be sufficient in the NO_HZ_FULL case. For
> > that you want a patch like the one below, which happily reduces the
> > latency in our (!NO_HZ_FULL) case still further to ~40ms.
> > 
> > Adding kvm list for better review...
> > 
> > From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> > Subject: [PATCH] kvm/x86: Inform RCU of quiescent state when entering guest mode
> > 
> > RCU can spend long periods of time waiting for a CPU which is actually in
> > KVM guest mode, entirely pointlessly. Treat it like the idle and userspace
> > modes, and don't wait for it.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kvm/x86.c      |  2 ++
> >  include/linux/rcutree.h |  2 ++
> >  kernel/rcu/tree.c       | 16 ++++++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 20 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > index 0046aa70205a..b0c82f70afa7 100644
> > --- a/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > +++ b/arch/x86/kvm/x86.c
> > @@ -7458,7 +7458,9 @@ static int vcpu_enter_guest(struct kvm_vcpu *vcpu)
> >  		vcpu->arch.switch_db_regs &= ~KVM_DEBUGREG_RELOAD;
> >  	}
> > 
> > +	rcu_kvm_enter();
> >  	kvm_x86_ops->run(vcpu);
> > +	rcu_kvm_exit();
> > 
> >  	/*
> >  	 * Do this here before restoring debug registers on the host.  And
> > diff --git a/include/linux/rcutree.h b/include/linux/rcutree.h
> > index 914655848ef6..6d07af5a50fc 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/rcutree.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/rcutree.h
> > @@ -82,6 +82,8 @@ void cond_synchronize_sched(unsigned long oldstate);
> > 
> >  void rcu_idle_enter(void);
> >  void rcu_idle_exit(void);
> > +void rcu_kvm_enter(void);
> > +void rcu_kvm_exit(void);
> >  void rcu_irq_enter(void);
> >  void rcu_irq_exit(void);
> >  void rcu_irq_enter_irqson(void);
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tree.c b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > index aa7cade1b9f3..df7893273939 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tree.c
> > @@ -1019,6 +1019,22 @@ void rcu_irq_enter_irqson(void)
> >  	local_irq_restore(flags);
> >  }
> > 
> > +/*
> > + * These are currently identical to the _idle_ versions but let's
> > + * explicitly have separate copies to keep Paul honest in future.
> > + */
> > +void rcu_kvm_enter(void)
> > +{
> > +	rcu_idle_enter();
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(rcu_kvm_enter);
> > +
> > +void rcu_kvm_exit(void)
> > +{
> > +	rcu_idle_exit();
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(rcu_kvm_exit);
> > +
> >  /**
> >   * rcu_is_watching - see if RCU thinks that the current CPU is idle
> >   *
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-11 20:17 UTC|newest]

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2018-07-11 17:03                     ` [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 17:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:01                         ` [PATCH v2] kvm/x86: Inform RCU of quiescent state when entering guest mode David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 18:20                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:36                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:39                               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 20:27                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 20:54                                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 21:09                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 21:11                                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 21:32                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 21:39                                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 23:47                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  8:31                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 11:00                                             ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12 11:10                                               ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 11:58                                                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12 12:04                                                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 23:37                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  2:15                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  6:21                                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12  9:52                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 18:31                       ` [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 20:17                         ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2018-07-11 20:19                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 21:08                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12 12:00                               ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 12:53                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12 16:17                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-16 15:40                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-17  8:19                                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-17 12:56                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 15:36                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 16:01                                             ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-18 16:37                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 19:41                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-18 20:17                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  0:26                                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19  6:45                                                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-19  7:20                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 10:23                                                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-19 12:55                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19 13:14                                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19 13:36                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 17:09                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-23  8:08                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-23 12:22                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  0:32                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19  3:11                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  6:16                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 13:17                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19 13:15                           ` Frederic Weisbecker

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