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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Michal Hocko" <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"David (ChunMing) Zhou" <David1.Zhou@amd.com>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Alex Deucher" <alexander.deucher@amd.com>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@linux.ie>,
	"Jani Nikula" <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>,
	"Joonas Lahtinen" <joonas.lahtinen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rodrigo Vivi" <rodrigo.vivi@intel.com>,
	"Doug Ledford" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"Jason Gunthorpe" <jgg@ziepe.ca>,
	"Mike Marciniszyn" <mike.marciniszyn@intel.com>,
	"Dennis Dalessandro" <dennis.dalessandro@intel.com>,
	"Sudeep Dutt" <sudeep.dutt@intel.com>,
	"Ashutosh Dixit" <ashutosh.dixit@intel.com>,
	"Dimitri Sivanich" <sivanich@sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2018 16:12:49 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180716161249.c76240cd487c070fb271d529@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180716115058.5559-1-mhocko@kernel.org>

On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 13:50:58 +0200 Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org> wrote:

> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> 
> There are several blockable mmu notifiers which might sleep in
> mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start and that is a problem for the
> oom_reaper because it needs to guarantee a forward progress so it cannot
> depend on any sleepable locks.
> 
> Currently we simply back off and mark an oom victim with blockable mmu
> notifiers as done after a short sleep. That can result in selecting a
> new oom victim prematurely because the previous one still hasn't torn
> its memory down yet.
> 
> We can do much better though. Even if mmu notifiers use sleepable locks
> there is no reason to automatically assume those locks are held.
> Moreover majority of notifiers only care about a portion of the address
> space and there is absolutely zero reason to fail when we are unmapping an
> unrelated range. Many notifiers do really block and wait for HW which is
> harder to handle and we have to bail out though.
> 
> This patch handles the low hanging fruid. __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start
> gets a blockable flag and callbacks are not allowed to sleep if the
> flag is set to false. This is achieved by using trylock instead of the
> sleepable lock for most callbacks and continue as long as we do not
> block down the call chain.

I assume device driver developers are wondering "what does this mean
for me".  As I understand it, the only time they will see
blockable==false is when their driver is being called in response to an
out-of-memory condition, yes?  So it is a very rare thing.

Any suggestions regarding how the driver developers can test this code
path?  I don't think we presently have a way to fake an oom-killing
event?  Perhaps we should add such a thing, given the problems we're
having with that feature.

> I think we can improve that even further because there is a common
> pattern to do a range lookup first and then do something about that.
> The first part can be done without a sleeping lock in most cases AFAICS.
> 
> The oom_reaper end then simply retries if there is at least one notifier
> which couldn't make any progress in !blockable mode. A retry loop is
> already implemented to wait for the mmap_sem and this is basically the
> same thing.
> 
> ...
>
> +static inline int mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start_nonblock(struct mm_struct *mm,
> +				  unsigned long start, unsigned long end)
> +{
> +	int ret = 0;
> +	if (mm_has_notifiers(mm))
> +		ret = __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(mm, start, end, false);
> +
> +	return ret;
>  }

nit,

{
	if (mm_has_notifiers(mm))
		return __mmu_notifier_invalidate_range_start(mm, start, end, false);
	return 0;
}

would suffice.


> 
> ...
>
> --- a/mm/mmap.c
> +++ b/mm/mmap.c
> @@ -3074,7 +3074,7 @@ void exit_mmap(struct mm_struct *mm)
>  		 * reliably test it.
>  		 */
>  		mutex_lock(&oom_lock);
> -		__oom_reap_task_mm(mm);
> +		(void)__oom_reap_task_mm(mm);
>  		mutex_unlock(&oom_lock);

What does this do?

>  		set_bit(MMF_OOM_SKIP, &mm->flags);
> 
> ...
>

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-16 23:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-16 11:50 [PATCH] mm, oom: distinguish blockable mode for mmu notifiers Michal Hocko
2018-07-16 23:12 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2018-07-17  4:03   ` Leon Romanovsky
2018-07-17  8:12   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-20 23:01     ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-23  8:43       ` Michal Hocko
     [not found] ` <20180716115058.5559-1-mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-19  9:12   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-21  0:09 ` Andrew Morton
     [not found]   ` <20180720170902.d1137060c23802d55426aa03-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2018-07-23  7:03     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23  7:11       ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-23  8:11         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 14:17     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 19:53       ` Andrew Morton
2018-07-25  6:17         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-24 21:07       ` David Rientjes
2018-07-25  6:13         ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 10:54 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 11:32   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20180824113248.GH29735-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:43       ` Christian König
     [not found]         ` <b088e382-e90e-df63-a079-19b2ae2b985d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:52           ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]             ` <20180824115226.GK29735-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:57               ` Christian König
2018-08-24 12:03                 ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]                   ` <20180824120339.GL29735-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 12:18                     ` Christian König
     [not found]                       ` <eb546bcb-9c5f-7d5d-43a7-bfde489f0e7f-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 12:33                         ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 12:52                           ` Christian König
     [not found]                             ` <b11df415-baf8-0a41-3c16-60dfe8d32bd3-5C7GfCeVMHo@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 13:01                               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:10                                 ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:24                                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:28                                     ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:40                                       ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:44                                         ` Christian König
2018-08-24 13:52                                           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-26  8:40                                             ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]                                               ` <b78f8b3a-7bc6-0dea-6752-5ea798eccb6b-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-27  7:41                                                 ` Christian König
2018-09-06 22:46                                                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:08                           ` Jerome Glisse
     [not found]   ` <8cbfb09f-0c5a-8d43-1f5e-f3ff7612e289-JPay3/Yim36HaxMnTkn67Xf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 11:36     ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 13:02       ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]         ` <103b1b33-1a1d-27a1-dcf8-5c8ad60056a6-1yMVhJb1mP/7nzcFbJAaVXf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2018-08-24 13:32           ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:52             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-08-24 15:12               ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:40                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 17:33                   ` Jerome Glisse
2018-08-24 16:38               ` Michal Hocko
2018-08-24 14:40   ` Jerome Glisse

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