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From: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	mhillenb@amazon.de, linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2018 02:26:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180719002639.GA5595@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180718201700.GN12945@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 01:17:00PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 09:41:05PM +0200, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 09:37 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 06:01:51PM +0200, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, 2018-07-18 at 08:36 -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > And I finally did get some near misses from an earlier commit, so we
> > > > > should consider your patch to be officially off the hook.
> > > >
> > > > Yay, I like it when it's not my fault. I'll redo it with the ifdef
> > > > CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL.
> > >
> > > Hey, I didn't say it wasn't your fault, only that it -officially- wasn't
> > > your fault.  ;-)
> > 
> > I can live with being innocent until proven guilty.
> > 
> > > > 
> > > > What should it do for the !CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL case? The existing call in
> > > > guest_enter_irqoff() clearly wasn't actually doing the right thing
> > > > anyway, hence the need for the need_resched() patch in $SUBJECT... so
> > > > should I just leave it doing nothing in guest_enter_irqoff()? 
> > >
> > > One starting point would be the combination of your patch and my
> > > patch, with -rcu commit IDs and diff below.  But yes, it needs to be
> > > !CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL.  And no, I am not at all confident that I actually
> > > found all the places needing change in the core code, so this needs some
> > > serious review both by the KVM guys and the NO_HZ_FULL guys.
> > 
> > Right, that looks fairly much like the version I'd ended up with. So my
> > question was...
> > 
> > > --- a/include/linux/context_tracking.h
> > > +++ b/include/linux/context_tracking.h
> > > @@ -118,12 +118,12 @@ static inline void guest_enter_irqoff(void)
> > >  	 * one time slice). Lets treat guest mode as quiescent state, just like
> > >  	 * we do with user-mode execution.
> > >  	 */
> > 
> > ...if we change this to something like...
> > 
> > #ifdef CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL
> > > +	rcu_kvm_enter();
> > #else
> > > 	if (!context_tracking_cpu_is_enabled())
> > > 		rcu_virt_note_context_switch(smp_processor_id());
> > #endif
> > 
> > ... do you actually want me to keep the #else case there? It blatantly
> > wasn't working anyway for us, perhaps because the condition was false?
> > That's why I started fixing need_resched() in the first place, and that
> > fix ought to cover whatever this call to rcu_virt_note_context_switch()
> > was supposed to be doing?
> 
> My thought would be something like this:
> 
> 	if (context_tracking_cpu_is_enabled())
> 		rcu_kvm_enter();
> 	else
> 		rcu_virt_note_context_switch(smp_processor_id());
> 
> The reason I believe that this is the right approach is that even when
> you have CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL=y, some CPUs will still be nohz_full=n CPUs,
> so you don't want to take the extra overhead on those CPUs.
> 
> But I could easily be confused here, so I am adding Frederic for his
> thoughts.

Hmm, actually rcu_user_enter()/rcu_user_exit() are already called upon guest
entry/exit :-)

Now I must confess the code leading there in __context_tracking_enter/exit is
not very obvious but that part applies to both CONTEXT_USER and CONTEXT_GUEST cases.
I should probably add a few comments to clarify.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-19  0:26 UTC|newest]

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2018-07-11 17:03                     ` [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 17:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:01                         ` [PATCH v2] kvm/x86: Inform RCU of quiescent state when entering guest mode David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 18:20                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:36                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 18:39                               ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 20:27                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 20:54                                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 21:09                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 21:11                                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 21:32                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 21:39                                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 23:47                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  8:31                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 11:00                                             ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12 11:10                                               ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 11:58                                                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12 12:04                                                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 23:37                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  2:15                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12  6:21                                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-12  9:52                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 18:31                       ` [RFC] Make need_resched() return true when rcu_urgent_qs requested Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-11 20:17                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-11 20:19                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-11 21:08                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12 12:00                               ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-12 12:53                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-12 16:17                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-16 15:40                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-17  8:19                                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-17 12:56                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 15:36                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 16:01                                             ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-18 16:37                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-18 19:41                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-18 20:17                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  0:26                                                     ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2018-07-19  6:45                                                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-19  7:20                                                       ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 10:23                                                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-19 12:55                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19 13:14                                                         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19 13:36                                                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 17:09                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-23  8:08                                                   ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-23 12:22                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  0:32                       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19  3:11                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2018-07-19  6:16                           ` David Woodhouse
2018-07-19 13:17                             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2018-07-19 13:15                           ` Frederic Weisbecker

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