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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: "Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>
Cc: "cjia@nvidia.com" <cjia@nvidia.com>,
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	"zhi.a.wang@intel.com" <zhi.a.wang@intel.com>,
	"kevin.tian@intel.com" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Zhao Yan <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>,
	"Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"alex.williamson@redhat.com" <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration
Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2019 12:42:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190220124242.5a1685c5.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <33183CC9F5247A488A2544077AF19020DB25D30F@dggeml511-mbx.china.huawei.com>

On Wed, 20 Feb 2019 11:28:46 +0000
"Gonglei (Arei)" <arei.gonglei@huawei.com> wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dr. David Alan Gilbert [mailto:dgilbert@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:02 PM
> > To: Zhao Yan <yan.y.zhao@intel.com>
> > Cc: cjia@nvidia.com; kvm@vger.kernel.org; aik@ozlabs.ru;
> > Zhengxiao.zx@alibaba-inc.com; shuangtai.tst@alibaba-inc.com;
> > qemu-devel@nongnu.org; kwankhede@nvidia.com; eauger@redhat.com;
> > yi.l.liu@intel.com; eskultet@redhat.com; ziye.yang@intel.com;
> > mlevitsk@redhat.com; pasic@linux.ibm.com; Gonglei (Arei)
> > <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>; felipe@nutanix.com; Ken.Xue@amd.com;
> > kevin.tian@intel.com; alex.williamson@redhat.com;
> > intel-gvt-dev@lists.freedesktop.org; changpeng.liu@intel.com;
> > cohuck@redhat.com; zhi.a.wang@intel.com; jonathan.davies@nutanix.com
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration
> > 
> > * Zhao Yan (yan.y.zhao@intel.com) wrote:  
> > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:32:13AM +0000, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:  
> > > > * Yan Zhao (yan.y.zhao@intel.com) wrote:  
> > > > > This patchset enables VFIO devices to have live migration capability.
> > > > > Currently it does not support post-copy phase.
> > > > >
> > > > > It follows Alex's comments on last version of VFIO live migration patches,
> > > > > including device states, VFIO device state region layout, dirty bitmap's
> > > > > query.  

> > > >   b) How do we detect if we're migrating from/to the wrong device or
> > > > version of device?  Or say to a device with older firmware or perhaps
> > > > a device that has less device memory ?  
> > > Actually it's still an open for VFIO migration. Need to think about
> > > whether it's better to check that in libvirt or qemu (like a device magic
> > > along with verion ?).  
> 
> We must keep the hardware generation is the same with one POD of public cloud
> providers. But we still think about the live migration between from the the lower
> generation of hardware migrated to the higher generation.

Agreed, lower->higher is the one direction that might make sense to
support.

But regardless of that, I think we need to make sure that incompatible
devices/versions fail directly instead of failing in a subtle, hard to
debug way. Might be useful to do some initial sanity checks in libvirt
as well.

How easy is it to obtain that information in a form that can be
consumed by higher layers? Can we find out the device type at least?
What about some kind of revision?

  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-20 11:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-19  8:50 [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration Yan Zhao
2019-02-19  8:52 ` [PATCH 1/5] vfio/migration: define kernel interfaces Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 13:09   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-20  7:36     ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 17:08       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-21  1:47         ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-19  8:52 ` [PATCH 2/5] vfio/migration: support device of device config capability Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 11:01   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20  5:12     ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 10:57       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-19 14:37   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-20 22:54     ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21 10:56       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-02-19  8:52 ` [PATCH 3/5] vfio/migration: tracking of dirty page in system memory Yan Zhao
2019-02-19  8:52 ` [PATCH 4/5] vfio/migration: turn on migration Yan Zhao
2019-02-19  8:53 ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio/migration: support device memory capability Yan Zhao
2019-02-19 11:25   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20  5:17     ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-19 14:42   ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-02-20  7:58     ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 10:14       ` Christophe de Dinechin
2019-02-21  0:07         ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-19 11:32 ` [PATCH 0/5] QEMU VFIO live migration Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20  5:28   ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-20 11:01     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 11:28       ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-20 11:42         ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2019-02-20 12:07           ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-03-27  6:35           ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-27 20:18             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-03-27 22:10               ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-28  8:36                 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-28  9:21                   ` Erik Skultety
2019-03-28 16:04                     ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-29  2:47                       ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-29 14:26                         ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-29 23:10                           ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-30 14:14                             ` Alex Williamson
2019-04-01  2:17                               ` Zhao Yan
2019-04-01  8:14                 ` Cornelia Huck
2019-04-01  8:40                   ` Yan Zhao
2019-04-01 14:15                     ` Alex Williamson
2019-02-21  0:31       ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21  9:15         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-02-20 11:56 ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21  0:24   ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21  1:35     ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21  1:58       ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21  3:33         ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21  4:08           ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21  5:46             ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21  2:04       ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21  3:16         ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21  4:21           ` Zhao Yan
2019-02-21  5:56             ` Gonglei (Arei)
2019-02-21 20:40 ` Alex Williamson
2019-02-25  2:22   ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-06  0:22     ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-07 17:44     ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-07 23:20       ` Tian, Kevin
2019-03-08 16:11         ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-08 16:21           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2019-03-08 22:02             ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-11  2:33               ` Tian, Kevin
2019-03-11 20:19                 ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-12  2:48                   ` Tian, Kevin
2019-03-13 19:57                     ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-12  2:57       ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-13  1:13         ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-13 19:14           ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-14  1:12             ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-14 22:44               ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-14 23:05                 ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-15  2:24                   ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-18  2:51                     ` Zhao Yan
2019-03-18  3:09                       ` Alex Williamson
2019-03-18  3:27                         ` Zhao Yan

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