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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: "Singh, Brijesh" <brijesh.singh@amd.com>
Cc: Liran Alon <liran.alon@oracle.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"rkrcmar@redhat.com" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] KVM: SVM: Fix workaround for AMD Errata 1096
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:54:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190716205427.GD28096@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17d102bd-74ef-64f8-0237-3a49d64ea344@amd.com>

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 08:27:12PM +0000, Singh, Brijesh wrote:
> 
> On 7/16/19 3:09 PM, Liran Alon wrote:
> >>
> >> We are discussing reserved NPF so we need to be at CPL3.
> > 
> > I don’t see the connection between a reserved #NPF and the need to be at
> > CPL3.  A vCPU can execute at CPL<3 a page that is mapped user-accessible in
> > guest page-tables in case CR4.SMEP=0 and then instruction will execute
> > successfully and can dereference a page that is mapped in NPT using an
> > entry with a reserved bit set.  Thus, reserved #NPF will be raised while
> > vCPU is at CPL<3 and DecodeAssist microcode will still raise SMAP violation
> > as CR4.SMAP=1 and microcode perform data-fetch with CPL<3. This leading
> > exactly to Errata condition as far as I understand.
> > 
> 
> Yes, vCPU at CPL<3 can raise the SMAP violation. When SMEP is disabled,
> the guest kernel never should be executing from code in user-mode pages,
> that'd be insecure. So I am not sure if kernel code can cause this
> errata.

From KVM's perspective, it's not a question of what is *likely* to happen
so much as it's a question of what *can* happen.  Architecturally there is
nothing that prevents CPL<3 code from encountering the SMAP fault.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-16 20:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-15 20:30 KVM: SVM: Fix workaround for AMD Errata 1096 Liran Alon
2019-07-15 20:30 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Liran Alon
2019-07-16 15:48   ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 15:56     ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:07       ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:10       ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 16:20         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:41           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 16:56             ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 17:27               ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 17:27               ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-16 17:35                 ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:28                   ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 19:34                     ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:39                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-16 19:45                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 19:50                           ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:47                         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 19:41                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 19:52                         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 20:02                       ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 20:07                         ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 20:13                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-07-16 20:09                         ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 20:27                           ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 20:54                             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2019-07-16 21:53                               ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 18:05           ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-16 18:06             ` Singh, Brijesh
2019-07-15 20:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: x86: Rename need_emulation_on_page_fault() to handle_no_insn_on_page_fault() Liran Alon
2019-07-16 15:48   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 16:01     ` Liran Alon
2019-07-16 16:10       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-07-16 19:33         ` Singh, Brijesh

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