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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Hankland <ehankland@google.com>,
	Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>,
	Krish Sadhukhan <krish.sadhukhan@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm: x86: Add Intel PMU MSRs to msrs_to_save[]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:34:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190927173420.GG25513@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eSO+X2hL5VEnE2YfiwWkQvcOGone=ECwe_1LzuuPocL0Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:22:51AM -0700, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:32 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 27/09/19 18:10, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:06 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> On 27/09/19 17:58, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > >>> Indeed, "KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST" returns the guest msrs that KVM supports and
> > >>> they are free from different guest configuration since they're initialized when
> > >>> kvm module is loaded.
> > >>>
> > >>> Even though some MSRs are not exposed to guest by clear their related cpuid
> > >>> bits, they are still saved/restored by QEMU in the same fashion.
> > >>>
> > >>> I wonder should we change "KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST" per VM?
> > >>
> > >> We can add a per-VM version too, yes.
> >
> > There is one problem with that: KVM_SET_CPUID2 is a vCPU ioctl, not a VM
> > ioctl.
> >
> > > Should the system-wide version continue to list *some* supported MSRs
> > > and *some* unsupported MSRs, with no rhyme or reason? Or should we
> > > codify what that list contains?
> >
> > The optimal thing would be for it to list only MSRs that are
> > unconditionally supported by all VMs and are part of the runtime state.
> >  MSRs that are not part of the runtime state, such as the VMX
> > capabilities, should be returned by KVM_GET_MSR_FEATURE_INDEX_LIST.
> >
> > This also means that my own commit 95c5c7c77c06 ("KVM: nVMX: list VMX
> > MSRs in KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST", 2019-07-02) was incorrect.
> > Unfortunately, that commit was done because userspace (QEMU) has a
> > genuine need to detect whether KVM is new enough to support the
> > IA32_VMX_VMFUNC MSR.
> >
> > Perhaps we can make all MSRs supported unconditionally if
> > host_initiated.  For unsupported performance counters it's easy to make
> > them return 0, and allow setting them to 0, if host_initiated (BTW, how
> > did you pick 32?  is there any risk of conflicts with other MSRs?).
> 
> 32 comes from INTEL_PMC_MAX_GENERIC. There are definitely conflicts.
> (Sorry; this should have occurred to me earlier.) 32 event selectors
> would occupy indices [0x186, 0x1a6). But on the architectural MSR
> list, only indices up through 0x197 are "reserved" (presumably for
> future event selectors). 32 GP counters would occupy indices [0xc1,
> 0xe1). But on the architectural MSR list, only indices up through 0xc8
> are defined for GP counters. None are marked "reserved" for future
> expansion, but none in the range (0xc8, 0xe1) are defined either.
> 
> Perhaps INTEL_MAX_PMC_GENERIC should be reduced to 18. If we removed
> event selectors and counters above 18, would my original approach
> work?

Heh, VMX is technically available on P4 processors, which don't support
the architectural PMU.  Generating the list based on hardware CPUID seems
both safer and easier.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-27 17:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-21 18:20 [PATCH] kvm: x86: Add Intel PMU MSRs to msrs_to_save[] Jim Mattson
2019-09-06 16:48 ` Jim Mattson
     [not found]   ` <8907173e-9f27-6769-09fc-0b82c22d6352@oracle.com>
2019-09-06 20:30     ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-06 20:43       ` Krish Sadhukhan
2019-09-06 21:08         ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-16 20:43           ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-17 12:39             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 13:53               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-09-27 14:00                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 14:40                   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-09-27 15:19                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 15:26                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 15:46                         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-09-27 15:55                           ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 15:59                             ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 16:01                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 15:58                           ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-09-27 16:06                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 16:10                               ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 16:32                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 17:14                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 17:19                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 17:23                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 17:30                                     ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:35                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 19:03                                         ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:22                                   ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:34                                     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2019-09-27 17:26                                   ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 16:06                             ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:36                       ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:45                         ` Sean Christopherson

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