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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Xiaoyao Li <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	kvm list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Eric Hankland <ehankland@google.com>,
	Peter Shier <pshier@google.com>,
	Krish Sadhukhan <krish.sadhukhan@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm: x86: Add Intel PMU MSRs to msrs_to_save[]
Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 10:35:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190927173526.GH25513@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALMp9eRpW++f1R7inMhu33s7GmerbD21+rGwyRmKphEEvdTDLQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:30:38AM -0700, Jim Mattson wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 10:14 AM Sean Christopherson
> <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 06:32:27PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> > > On 27/09/19 18:10, Jim Mattson wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Sep 27, 2019 at 9:06 AM Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On 27/09/19 17:58, Xiaoyao Li wrote:
> > > >>> Indeed, "KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST" returns the guest msrs that KVM supports and
> > > >>> they are free from different guest configuration since they're initialized when
> > > >>> kvm module is loaded.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Even though some MSRs are not exposed to guest by clear their related cpuid
> > > >>> bits, they are still saved/restored by QEMU in the same fashion.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I wonder should we change "KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST" per VM?
> > > >>
> > > >> We can add a per-VM version too, yes.
> > >
> > > There is one problem with that: KVM_SET_CPUID2 is a vCPU ioctl, not a VM
> > > ioctl.
> > >
> > > > Should the system-wide version continue to list *some* supported MSRs
> > > > and *some* unsupported MSRs, with no rhyme or reason? Or should we
> > > > codify what that list contains?
> > >
> > > The optimal thing would be for it to list only MSRs that are
> > > unconditionally supported by all VMs and are part of the runtime state.
> > >  MSRs that are not part of the runtime state, such as the VMX
> > > capabilities, should be returned by KVM_GET_MSR_FEATURE_INDEX_LIST.
> > >
> > > This also means that my own commit 95c5c7c77c06 ("KVM: nVMX: list VMX
> > > MSRs in KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST", 2019-07-02) was incorrect.
> > > Unfortunately, that commit was done because userspace (QEMU) has a
> > > genuine need to detect whether KVM is new enough to support the
> > > IA32_VMX_VMFUNC MSR.
> > >
> > > Perhaps we can make all MSRs supported unconditionally if
> > > host_initiated.  For unsupported performance counters it's easy to make
> > > them return 0, and allow setting them to 0, if host_initiated
> >
> > I don't think we need to go that far.  Allowing any ol' MSR access seems
> > like it would cause more problems than it would solve, e.g. userspace
> > could completely botch something and never know.
> >
> > For the perf MSRs, could we enumerate all arch perf MSRs that are supported
> > by hardware?  That would also be the list of MSRs that host_initiated MSR
> > accesses can touch regardless of guest support.
> >
> > Something like:
> >
> >         case MSR_ARCH_PERFMON_PERFCTR0 ... MSR_ARCH_PERFMON_PERFCTR0+INTEL_PMC_MAX_GENERIC:
> >         case MSR_ARCH_PERFMON_EVENTSEL0 ... MSR_ARCH_PERFMON_EVENTSEL0+INTEL_PMC_MAX_GENERIC:
> >                 if (kvm_pmu_is_valid_msr(vcpu, msr))
> >                         return kvm_pmu_set_msr(vcpu, msr_info);
> >                 else if (msr <= num_hw_counters)
> >                         break;
> >                 return 1;
> 
> That doesn't quite work, since you need a vcpu, and
> KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST is a system-wide ioctl, not a VCPU ioctl.

That'd be for the {kvm,vmx}_set_msr() flow.  The KVM_GET_MSR_INDEX_LIST
flow would report all MSRs from 0..num_hw_counters, where num_hw_counters
is pulled from CPUID.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-27 17:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-08-21 18:20 [PATCH] kvm: x86: Add Intel PMU MSRs to msrs_to_save[] Jim Mattson
2019-09-06 16:48 ` Jim Mattson
     [not found]   ` <8907173e-9f27-6769-09fc-0b82c22d6352@oracle.com>
2019-09-06 20:30     ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-06 20:43       ` Krish Sadhukhan
2019-09-06 21:08         ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-16 20:43           ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-17 12:39             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 13:53               ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-09-27 14:00                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 14:40                   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-09-27 15:19                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 15:26                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 15:46                         ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2019-09-27 15:55                           ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 15:59                             ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 16:01                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 15:58                           ` Xiaoyao Li
2019-09-27 16:06                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 16:10                               ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 16:32                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 17:14                                   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 17:19                                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-09-27 17:23                                       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 17:30                                     ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:35                                       ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2019-09-27 19:03                                         ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:22                                   ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:34                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-09-27 17:26                                   ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 16:06                             ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:36                       ` Jim Mattson
2019-09-27 17:45                         ` Sean Christopherson

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