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From: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Vitaly Kuznetsov" <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	"Wanpeng Li" <wanpengli@tencent.com>,
	"Jim Mattson" <jmattson@google.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/16] KVM: VMX: Drop initialization of IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL MSR
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2019 08:16:22 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191022151622.GA2343@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <59cbc79a-fb06-f689-aa24-0ba923783345@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 12:51:01PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 22/10/19 02:08, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > Remove the code to initialize IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL MSR when KVM is
> > loaded now that the MSR is initialized during boot on all CPUs that
> > support VMX, i.e. can possibly load kvm_intel.
> > 
> > Reviewed-by: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>
> > ---
> >  arch/x86/kvm/vmx/vmx.c | 48 +++++++++++++++++-------------------------
> >  1 file changed, 19 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)
> 
> I am still not sure about this...  Enabling VMX is adding a possible
> attack vector for the kernel, we should not do it unless we plan to do a
> VMXON.

An attacker would need arbitrary cpl0 access to toggle CR4.VMXE and do
VMXON (and VMLAUNCH), would an extra WRMSR really slow them down?

And practically speaking, how often do you encounter systems whose
firmware leaves IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL unlocked?

> Why is it so important to operate with locked
> IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL (so that KVM can enable VMX and the kernel can
> still enable SGX if desired).

For simplicity.  The alternative that comes to mind is to compute the
desired MSR value and write/lock the MSR on demand, e.g. add a sequence
similar to KVM's hardware_enable_all() for SGX, but that's a fair amount
of complexity for marginal benefit (IMO).

If a user really doesn't want VMX enabled, they can clear the feature bit
via the clearcpuid kernel param. 

That being said, enabling VMX in IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL if and only if
IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_KVM) is true would be an easy enhancement.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-22 15:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-21 23:46 [PATCH v2 00/16] x86/cpu: Clean up handling of VMX features Sean Christopherson
2019-10-21 23:54 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] x86/intel: Initialize IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL MSR at boot Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:15   ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-25 14:09   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-25 15:11     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-10-21 23:56 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] x86/mce: WARN once if IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL MSR is left unlocked Sean Christopherson
2019-10-25 14:22   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] x86/centaur: Use common IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL MSR initialization Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] x86/zhaoxin: " Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] KVM: VMX: Drop initialization of IA32_FEATURE_CONTROL MSR Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22 10:51   ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-22 15:16     ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2019-11-14 18:34       ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-15 10:10         ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-10-25 16:26   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-25 16:39     ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] x86/cpu: Clear VMX feature flag if VMX is not fully enabled Sean Christopherson
2019-10-25 16:38   ` Borislav Petkov
2019-11-14 18:32     ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-15 10:05       ` Paolo Bonzini
2019-11-15 10:34         ` Borislav Petkov
2019-11-15 15:34           ` Sean Christopherson
2019-11-15 15:39             ` Borislav Petkov
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] KVM: VMX: Use VMX feature flag to query BIOS enabling Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] KVM: VMX: Check for full VMX support when verifying CPU compatibility Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] x86/vmx: Introduce VMX_FEATURES_* Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] x86/cpu: Detect VMX features on Intel, Centaur and Zhaoxin CPUs Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] x86/cpu: Print VMX flags in /proc/cpuinfo using VMX_FEATURES_* Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] x86/cpufeatures: Drop synthetic VMX feature flags Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:08 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] KVM: VMX: Use VMX_FEATURE_* flags to define VMCS control bits Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:09 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] x86/cpufeatures: Clean up synthetic virtualization flags Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:12 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] perf/x86: Provide stubs of KVM helpers for non-Intel CPUs Sean Christopherson
2019-10-22  0:12 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] KVM: VMX: Allow KVM_INTEL when building for Centaur and/or Zhaoxin CPUs Sean Christopherson

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