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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, david@redhat.com, thuth@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/4] s390x: Testing the Subchannel I/O read
Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2019 11:54:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191122115422.56019f03.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0c9d19ef-8ef7-0dab-b283-3db243b95476@linux.ibm.com>

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019 10:03:21 +0100
Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On 2019-11-21 17:02, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 11:11:18 +0100
> > Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 2019-11-13 14:05, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
> >>> On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 13:23:19 +0100
> >>> Pierre Morel <pmorel@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> >>>> - initializing the ORB pointing to a single READ CCW  
> >>> Out of curiosity: Would using a NOP also be an option?  
> >> It will work but will not be handled by this device, css.c intercept it
> >> in sch_handle_start_func_virtual.
> >>
> >> AFAIU If we want to have a really good testing environment, for driver
> >> testing for exemple, then it would be interesting to add a new
> >> do_subchannel_work callback like do_subchannel_work_emulation along with
> >> the _virtual and _paththrough variantes.
> >>
> >> Having a dedicated callback for emulation, we can answer to any CSS
> >> instructions and SSCH commands, including NOP and TIC.  
> > I guess that depends on what you want to test; if you actually want to
> > test device emulation as used by virtio etc., you obviously want to go
> > through the existing _virtual callback :)  
> 
> The first goal is to test basic I/O from inside the kvm-unit-test, 
> producing errors and see how the system respond to errors.
> 
> In a standard system errors will be generated by QEMU analysing the I/O 
> instruction after interception.
> 
> In a secured guest, we expect the same errors, however we want to check 
> this.

But we still get the intercepts for all I/O instructions, right? We
just get/inject the parameters in a slightly different way, IIUC.

Not that I disagree with wanting to check this :)

> This PONG device is intended to be low level, no VIRTIO, and to allow 
> basic I/O.

Ok, so this is designed to test basic channel I/O handling, not
necessarily if the guest has set up all its control structures
correctly?

> > The actual motivation behind my question was:
> > Is it possible to e.g. throw NOP (or TIC, or something else not
> > device-specific) at a normal, existing virtio device for test purposes?
> > You'd end up testing the common emulation code without needing any
> > extra support in QEMU. No idea how useful that would be.  
> 
> Writing a VIRTIO driver inside the kvm-unit-test is something we can do 
> in the future.
> 
> As you said, the common code already handle NOP and TIC, the 
> interpretation of the
> CCW chain, once the SSCH has been intercepted is done by QEMU.
> I do not think it would be different with SE.

Yes. You don't really need to get the virtio device up on the virtio
side; if recognizing the device correctly via senseID works and you
maybe can do some NOP/TIC commands, you might have a very basic test
without introducing a new device.

Testing virtio-ccw via kvm-unit-tests is probably a good idea for the
future.

> To sum-up:
> 
> in kvm-unit-test: implement all I/O instructions and force instructions 
> errors, like memory error, operand etc. and expect the right reaction of 
> the system.
> 
> in QEMU, add the necessary infrastructure to test this.

Sounds good to me.


  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-22 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-13 12:23 [PATCH v1 0/4] s390x: Testing the Subchannel I/O Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 12:23 ` [PATCH v1 1/4] s390x: saving regs for interrupts Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 16:12   ` Janosch Frank
2019-11-14 10:11     ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-14 10:28       ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-14 11:57         ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-14 12:11           ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-14 15:21             ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-14 15:25               ` David Hildenbrand
2019-11-14 16:15                 ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 12:23 ` [PATCH v1 2/4] s390x: Define the PSW bits Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 16:05   ` Janosch Frank
2019-11-14  8:40     ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-14  8:53       ` Janosch Frank
2019-11-14 15:25         ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 12:23 ` [PATCH v1 3/4] s390x:irq: make IRQ handler weak Pierre Morel
2019-11-15  7:12   ` Thomas Huth
2019-11-18  9:04     ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 12:23 ` [PATCH v1 4/4] s390x: Testing the Subchannel I/O read Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 13:05   ` Cornelia Huck
2019-11-14 10:11     ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-21 16:02       ` Cornelia Huck
2019-11-22  9:03         ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-22 10:54           ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2019-11-22 12:48             ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-14  9:15   ` Janosch Frank
2019-11-14 16:38     ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-14 16:51       ` Thomas Huth
2019-11-14 17:50         ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-14 17:09       ` Janosch Frank
2019-11-14 17:55         ` Pierre Morel
2019-11-13 12:35 ` [PATCH v1 0/4] s390x: Testing the Subchannel I/O Thomas Huth
2019-11-13 12:43   ` Pierre Morel

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