From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
Chaitanya Kulkarni <kch@nvidia.com>,
"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
"rafael@kernel.org" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"Pan, Jacob jun" <jacob.jun.pan@intel.com>,
Diana Craciun <diana.craciun@oss.nxp.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/11] iommu: Add device dma ownership set/release interfaces
Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2021 09:33:25 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211118133325.GO2105516@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5433639E43C37C5D2462BD718C9B9@BN9PR11MB5433.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 02:39:45AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
> > From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2021 9:46 PM
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 09:57:30AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > > Hi Christoph,
> > >
> > > On 11/15/21 9:14 PM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 10:05:42AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > > > > +enum iommu_dma_owner {
> > > > > + DMA_OWNER_NONE,
> > > > > + DMA_OWNER_KERNEL,
> > > > > + DMA_OWNER_USER,
> > > > > +};
> > > > > +
> > > >
> > > > > + enum iommu_dma_owner dma_owner;
> > > > > + refcount_t owner_cnt;
> > > > > + struct file *owner_user_file;
> > > >
> > > > I'd just overload the ownership into owner_user_file,
> > > >
> > > > NULL -> no owner
> > > > (struct file *)1UL) -> kernel
> > > > real pointer -> user
> > > >
> > > > Which could simplify a lot of the code dealing with the owner.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Yeah! Sounds reasonable. I will make this in the next version.
> >
> > It would be good to figure out how to make iommu_attach_device()
> > enforce no other driver binding as a kernel user without a file *, as
> > Robin pointed to, before optimizing this.
> >
> > This fixes an existing bug where iommu_attach_device() only checks the
> > group size and is vunerable to a hot plug increasing the group size
> > after it returns. That check should be replaced by this series's logic
> > instead.
> >
>
> I think this existing bug in iommu_attach_devce() is different from
> what this series is attempting to solve. To avoid breaking singleton
> group assumption there the ideal band-aid is to fail device hotplug.
> Otherwise some IOVA ranges which are supposed to go upstream
> to IOMMU may be considered as p2p and routed to the hotplugged
> device instead.
Yes, but the instability of the reserved regions during hotplug with
!ACS seems like an entirely different problem. It affects everything,
including VFIO, and multi-device groups. Certainly it is nothing to do
with this series.
> In concept a singleton group is different from a
> multi-devices group which has only one device bound to driver...
Really? Why? I don't see it that way..
A singleton group is just a multi-device group that hasn't been
hotplugged yet.
We don't seem to have the concept of a "true" singleton group which is
permanently single due to HW features.
> This series aims to avoid conflict having both user and kernel drivers
> mixed in a multi-devices group.
I see this series about bringing order to all the places that want to
use a non-default domain - in-kernel or user doesn't really matter.
ie why shouldn't iommu_attach_device() work in a group that has a PCI
bridge, just like VFIO does?
The only thing that is special about VFIO vs a kernel driver is we
want a little help to track userspace ownership and VFIO opens
userspace to do the P2P attack.
The way I see it the num device == 1 test in iommu_attach_device() is
an imperfect way of controlling driver binding, and we can do better
by using the mechanism in this series.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-11-18 13:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-11-15 2:05 [PATCH 00/11] Fix BUG_ON in vfio_iommu_group_notifier() Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 01/11] iommu: Add device dma ownership set/release interfaces Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-16 1:57 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16 13:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-17 5:22 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-17 13:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-18 1:12 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-18 14:10 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-18 2:39 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-11-18 13:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-11-19 5:44 ` Tian, Kevin
2021-11-19 11:14 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-19 15:06 ` Jörg Rödel
2021-11-19 15:43 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-20 11:16 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-19 12:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 20:38 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16 1:52 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 02/11] driver core: Set DMA ownership during driver bind/unbind Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 6:59 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-11-15 13:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 13:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 15:37 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 15:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 18:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 18:35 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 19:39 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 03/11] PCI: pci_stub: Suppress kernel DMA ownership auto-claiming Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:21 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 13:31 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 15:14 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 16:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 17:54 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 18:19 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-15 18:44 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 19:22 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 20:58 ` Robin Murphy
2021-11-15 21:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 20:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-15 22:17 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16 6:05 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 04/11] PCI: portdrv: " Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 20:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16 7:24 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-16 20:22 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2021-11-16 20:48 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 05/11] iommu: Add security context management for assigned devices Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:22 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-16 7:25 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 06/11] iommu: Expose group variants of dma ownership interfaces Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 13:27 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-11-16 9:42 ` Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 07/11] vfio: Use DMA_OWNER_USER to declaim passthrough devices Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 08/11] vfio: Remove use of vfio_group_viable() Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 09/11] vfio: Delete the unbound_list Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 10/11] vfio: Remove iommu group notifier Lu Baolu
2021-11-15 2:05 ` [PATCH 11/11] iommu: Remove iommu group changes notifier Lu Baolu
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