From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/18] iommu: Add device dma ownership set/release interfaces
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 11:01:44 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211206150144.GC4670@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Ya4Ru/GtILJYzI6j@8bytes.org>
On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 02:35:55PM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 06, 2021 at 09:58:46AM +0800, Lu Baolu wrote:
> > >From the perspective of who is initiating the device to do DMA, device
> > DMA could be divided into the following types:
> >
> > DMA_OWNER_DMA_API: Device DMAs are initiated by a kernel driver
> > through the kernel DMA API.
> > DMA_OWNER_PRIVATE_DOMAIN: Device DMAs are initiated by a kernel
> > driver with its own PRIVATE domain.
> > DMA_OWNER_PRIVATE_DOMAIN_USER: Device DMAs are initiated by
> > userspace.
>
> I have looked at the other iommu patches in this series, but I still
> don't quite get what the difference in the code flow is between
> DMA_OWNER_PRIVATE_DOMAIN and DMA_OWNER_PRIVATE_DOMAIN_USER. What are the
> differences in the iommu core behavior based on this setting?
USER causes the IOMMU code to spend extra work to never assign the
default domain. Lu, it would be good to update the comment with this
detail
Once in USER mode the domain is always a /dev/null domain or a domain
controlled by userspace. Never a domain pointing at kernel memory.
> > int iommu_device_set_dma_owner(struct device *dev,
> > enum iommu_dma_owner type, void *owner_cookie);
> > void iommu_device_release_dma_owner(struct device *dev,
> > enum iommu_dma_owner type);
>
> It the owner is a group-wide setting, it should be called with the group
> instead of the device. I have seen the group-specific funcitons are
> added later, but that leaves the question why the device-specific ones
> are needed at all.
We should not be exposing group interfaces to drivers. Drivers are
device centric, they have struct devices, they should not be touching
the group. Figuring out how to relate a device to a group is the job
of the IOMMU code.
This series deletes the only use of the group interface from normal
drivers (tegra)
The device interfaces are the primary interface, the group interface
was added only to support VFIO and only because VFIO has made the
group part of it's uAPI.
> > struct group_device {
> > @@ -621,6 +624,7 @@ struct iommu_group *iommu_group_alloc(void)
> > INIT_LIST_HEAD(&group->devices);
> > INIT_LIST_HEAD(&group->entry);
> > BLOCKING_INIT_NOTIFIER_HEAD(&group->notifier);
> > + group->dma_owner = DMA_OWNER_NONE;
>
>
> DMA_OWNER_NONE is also questionable. All devices are always in one
> domain, and the default domain is always the one used for DMA-API, so
> why isn't the initial value DMA_OWNER_DMA_API?
'NONE' means the group is in the default domain but no driver is bound
and thus DMA isn't being used. Seeing NONE is the only condition when
it is OK to change the domain.
This could be reworked to instead rely on the refcount == 0 as the
signal to know it is OK to change the domain and then we never have
NONE at all. Lu?
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-12-06 15:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 51+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-12-06 1:58 [PATCH v3 00/18] Fix BUG_ON in vfio_iommu_group_notifier() Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 01/18] iommu: Add device dma ownership set/release interfaces Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 13:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2021-12-06 14:29 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-06 15:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-12-07 1:52 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 14:42 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-07 2:07 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 02/18] driver core: Add dma_cleanup callback in bus_type Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 03/18] driver core: platform: Rename platform_dma_configure() Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 7:53 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-06 14:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-06 14:43 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-06 14:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-06 14:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-06 15:04 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 1:21 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-07 23:09 ` Dan Williams
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 04/18] driver core: platform: Add driver dma ownership management Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 7:54 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2021-12-06 14:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-06 15:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 2:57 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-07 13:16 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 13:25 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-07 13:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-09 1:20 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-10 1:23 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-13 0:50 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-13 13:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-15 12:24 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-14 16:35 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 05/18] amba: " Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 06/18] bus: fsl-mc: " Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 07/18] PCI: " Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 08/18] PCI: pci_stub: Suppress kernel DMA ownership auto-claiming Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 09/18] PCI: portdrv: " Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 10/18] iommu: Add security context management for assigned devices Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 11/18] iommu: Expose group variants of dma ownership interfaces Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 12/18] iommu: Add iommu_at[de]tach_device_shared() for multi-device groups Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 14:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-12-07 2:33 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 13/18] vfio: Set DMA USER ownership for VFIO devices Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:58 ` [PATCH v3 14/18] vfio: Remove use of vfio_group_viable() Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:59 ` [PATCH v3 15/18] vfio: Delete the unbound_list Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:59 ` [PATCH v3 16/18] vfio: Remove iommu group notifier Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:59 ` [PATCH v3 17/18] iommu: Remove iommu group changes notifier Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 1:59 ` [PATCH v3 18/18] drm/tegra: Use the iommu dma_owner mechanism Lu Baolu
2021-12-06 12:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-12-07 2:34 ` Lu Baolu
2021-12-17 6:41 ` [PATCH v3 00/18] Fix BUG_ON in vfio_iommu_group_notifier() Lu Baolu
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