From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Peter Xu" <peterx@redhat.com>,
"Jason Wang" <jasowang@redhat.com>,
"Marcel Apfelbaum" <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
"Richard Henderson" <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
"Eduardo Habkost" <eduardo@habkost.net>,
"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Claudio Fontana" <cfontana@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] target/i386: Fix sanity check on max APIC ID / X2APIC enablement
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 06:47:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220316064631-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c359ac8572d0193dd65bb384f68873d24d0c72d3.camel@infradead.org>
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:37:49AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> On Wed, 2022-03-16 at 05:56 -0400, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 09:37:07AM +0000, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > Yep, that's the guest operating system's choice. Not a qemu problem.
> > >
> > > Even if you have the split IRQ chip, if you boot a guest without kvm-
> > > msi-ext-dest-id support, it'll refuse to use higher CPUs.
> > >
> > > Or if you boot a guest without X2APIC support, it'll refuse to use
> > > higher CPUs.
> > >
> > > That doesn't mean a user should be *forbidden* from launching qemu in
> > > that configuration.
> >
> > Well the issue with all these configs which kind of work but not
> > the way they were specified is that down the road someone
> > creates a VM with this config and then expects us to maintain it
> > indefinitely.
> >
> > So yes, if we are not sure we can support something properly it is
> > better to validate and exit than create a VM guests don't know how
> > to treat.
>
> Not entirely sure how to reconcile that with what Daniel said in
> https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/Yi9BTkZIM3iZsvdK@redhat.com/ which
> was:
>
> > We've generally said QEMU should not reject / block startup of valid
> > hardware configurations, based on existance of bugs in certain guest
> > OS, if the config would be valid for other guest.
For sure, but is this a valid hardware configuration? That's
really the question.
> That said, I cannot point at a *specific* example of a guest which can
> use the higher CPUs even when it can't direct external interrupts at
> them. I worked on making Linux capable of it, as I said, but didn't
> pursue that in the end.
>
> I *suspect* Windows might be able to do it, based on the way the
> hyperv-iommu works (by cheating and returning -EINVAL when external
> interrupts are directed at higher CPUs).
>
>
--
MST
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-16 10:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-14 14:25 [PATCH 1/4] target/i386: Fix sanity check on max APIC ID / X2APIC enablement David Woodhouse
2022-03-14 14:25 ` [PATCH 2/4] intel_iommu: Support IR-only mode without DMA translation David Woodhouse
2022-03-14 15:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-14 15:45 ` David Woodhouse
2022-03-14 22:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-16 9:34 ` David Woodhouse
2022-03-14 16:01 ` David Woodhouse
2022-03-14 14:25 ` [PATCH 3/4] intel_iommu: Only allow interrupt remapping to be enabled if it's supported David Woodhouse
2022-03-14 14:25 ` [PATCH 4/4] intel_iommu: Fix irqchip / X2APIC configuration checks David Woodhouse
2022-03-16 9:04 ` [PATCH 1/4] target/i386: Fix sanity check on max APIC ID / X2APIC enablement Igor Mammedov
2022-03-16 9:37 ` David Woodhouse
2022-03-16 9:56 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2022-03-16 10:37 ` David Woodhouse
2022-03-16 10:47 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2022-03-16 11:28 ` Igor Mammedov
2022-03-16 14:31 ` David Woodhouse
[not found] ` <20220317094209.2888b431@redhat.com>
2022-03-17 9:05 ` Igor Mammedov
2022-03-17 11:13 ` David Woodhouse
2022-03-18 14:17 ` Igor Mammedov
2022-03-18 14:56 ` David Woodhouse
2022-05-13 13:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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