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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
Cc: "Martins, Joao" <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 00/19] IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 11:07:36 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220505140736.GQ49344@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB5276DFBF612789265199200C8CC29@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On Thu, May 05, 2022 at 07:40:37AM +0000, Tian, Kevin wrote:
 
> In concept this is an iommu property instead of a domain property.

Not really, domains shouldn't be changing behaviors once they are
created. If a domain supports dirty tracking and I attach a new device
then it still must support dirty tracking.

I suppose we may need something here because we need to control when
domains are re-used if they don't have the right properties in case
the system iommu's are discontiguous somehow.

ie iommufd should be able to assert that dirty tracking is desired and
an existing non-dirty tracking capable domain will not be
automatically re-used.

We don't really have the right infrastructure to do this currently.

> From this angle IMHO it's more reasonable to report this IOMMU
> property to userspace via a device capability. If all devices attached
> to a hwpt claim IOMMU dirty tracking capability, the user can call
> set_dirty_tracking() on the hwpt object. 

Inherent domain properties need to be immutable or, at least one-way,
like enforced coherent, or it just all stops making any kind of sense.

> Once dirty tracking is enabled on a hwpt, further attaching a device
> which doesn't claim this capability is simply rejected.

It would be OK to do as enforced coherent does as flip a domain
permanently into dirty-tracking enabled, or specify a flag at domain
creation time.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-05 14:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-28 21:09 [PATCH RFC 00/19] IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 01/19] iommu: Add iommu_domain ops for dirty tracking Joao Martins
2022-04-29  7:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-29 10:44     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:08   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 14:26     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 14:35       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 13:40   ` Baolu Lu
2022-04-29 15:27     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 02/19] iommufd: Dirty tracking for io_pagetable Joao Martins
2022-04-29  8:07   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-29 10:48     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 11:56     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 14:28       ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 23:51   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-02 11:57     ` Joao Martins
2022-08-29 10:01   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 03/19] iommufd: Dirty tracking data support Joao Martins
2022-04-29  8:12   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-29 10:54     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:09       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 14:33         ` Joao Martins
2022-04-30  4:11   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-02 12:06     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 04/19] iommu: Add an unmap API that returns dirtied IOPTEs Joao Martins
2022-04-30  5:12   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-02 12:22     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 05/19] iommufd: Add a dirty bitmap to iopt_unmap_iova() Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:14   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 14:36     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 06/19] iommufd: Dirty tracking IOCTLs for the hw_pagetable Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 07/19] iommufd/vfio-compat: Dirty tracking IOCTLs compatibility Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 14:27     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 14:36       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 14:52         ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 08/19] iommufd: Add a test for dirty tracking ioctls Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 09/19] iommu/amd: Access/Dirty bit support in IOPTEs Joao Martins
2022-05-31 11:34   ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
2022-05-31 12:15     ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-31 15:22     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 10/19] iommu/amd: Add unmap_read_dirty() support Joao Martins
2022-05-31 12:39   ` Suravee Suthikulpanit
2022-05-31 15:51     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 11/19] iommu/amd: Print access/dirty bits if supported Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 12/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add feature detection for HTTU Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 13/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add feature detection for BBML Joao Martins
2022-04-29 11:11   ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-29 11:54     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:26       ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-29 14:34         ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 14/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add read_and_clear_dirty() support Joao Martins
2022-08-29  9:59   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 15/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add set_dirty_tracking_range() support Joao Martins
2022-04-29  8:28   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-29 11:05     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 11:19       ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-29 12:06         ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 14:45             ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 16:11               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 16:40                 ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 16:46                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 19:20                   ` Robin Murphy
2022-05-02 11:52                     ` Joao Martins
2022-05-02 11:57                       ` Joao Martins
2022-05-05  7:25       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-05-05  9:52         ` Joao Martins
2022-08-29  9:59           ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-08-29 10:00   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 16/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Enable HTTU for stage1 with io-pgtable mapping Joao Martins
2022-04-29 11:35   ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-29 12:10     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:46       ` Robin Murphy
2022-08-29 10:00   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 17/19] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add unmap_read_dirty() support Joao Martins
2022-04-29 11:53   ` Robin Murphy
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 18/19] iommu/intel: Access/Dirty bit support for SL domains Joao Martins
2022-04-29  9:03   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-04-29 11:20     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-30  6:12   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-02 12:24     ` Joao Martins
2022-04-28 21:09 ` [PATCH RFC 19/19] iommu/intel: Add unmap_read_dirty() support Joao Martins
2022-04-29  5:45 ` [PATCH RFC 00/19] IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Tian, Kevin
2022-04-29 10:27   ` Joao Martins
2022-04-29 12:38     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-04-29 15:20       ` Joao Martins
2022-05-05  7:40       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-05 14:07         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2022-05-06  3:51           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-06 11:46             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-10  1:38               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-10 11:50                 ` Joao Martins
2022-05-11  1:17                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-10 13:46                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-11  1:10                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-07-12 18:34                     ` Joao Martins
2022-07-21 14:24                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-02 18:11   ` Alex Williamson
2022-05-02 18:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-03 10:48       ` Joao Martins
2022-05-05  7:42       ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-05 10:06         ` Joao Martins
2022-05-05 11:03           ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-05 11:50             ` Joao Martins
2022-05-06  3:14               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-05 13:55             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-06  3:17               ` Tian, Kevin

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