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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: "Suthikulpanit, Suravee" <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Cc: Joao Martins <joao.m.martins@oracle.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Shameerali Kolothum Thodi  <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Lu Baolu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>, Yi Liu <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	Yi Y Sun <yi.y.sun@intel.com>, Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 17/19] iommu/amd: Access/Dirty bit support in IOPTEs
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 12:50:12 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231018155012.GX3952@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <14cc91b4-6087-369b-c6e8-5414143985c6@amd.com>

On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 08:04:07PM +0700, Suthikulpanit, Suravee wrote:

> > It appears that the check_feature() is logically equivalent to
> > check_feature_on_all_iommus(); where this check is per-device/per-iommu check to
> > support potentially nature of different IOMMUs with different features. Being
> > per-IOMMU would allow you to have firmware to not advertise certain IOMMU
> > features on some devices while still supporting for others. I understand this is
> > not a thing in x86, but the UAPI supports it. Having said that, you still want
> > me to switch to check_feature() ?
> 
> So far, AMD does not have system w/ multiple IOMMUs, which have different
> EFR/EFR2. However, the AMD IOMMU spec does not enforce EFR/EFR2 of all IOMMU
> instances to be the same. There are certain features, which require
> consistent support across all IOMMUs. That's why we introduced the
> system-wide amd_iommu_efr / amd_iommu_efr2 to simpify feature checking logic
> in the driver.

I've argued this seems like a shortcut. The general design of the
iommu subsystem has everything be per-iommu and the only cross
instance sharing should be with the domain.

I understood AMD had some global things where it needed to interact
with the other arch code that had to be global.

However, at least for domain centric features this is how things
should be coded in drivers - store the data in the domain and reject
attach to incompatible iommus. Try to minimize the use of globals.

> @@ -2252,6 +2268,9 @@ static int amd_iommu_attach_device(struct iommu_domain
> *dom,
>  		return 0;
> 
>  	dev_data->defer_attach = false;
> +	if (dom->dirty_ops && iommu &&
> +	    !(iommu->features & FEATURE_HDSUP))
> +		return -EINVAL;
> 
> which means dev_A and dev_B cannot be in the same VFIO domain.

Which is correct, the HW cannot support dirty tracking.

The VMM world can handle this, it knows that the domain is
incompatible so it can choose to use another way to do dirty tracking
and associate a non-dirty tracking domain to this device. Or decide to
give up.

Other platforms will require this code anyhow as they don't have the
guarentee of uniformity.

Jason

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-10-18 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 140+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-09-23  1:24 [PATCH v3 00/19] IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:24 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] vfio/iova_bitmap: Export more API symbols Joao Martins
2023-10-13 15:43   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 15:57     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 16:03       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:22         ` Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:24 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] vfio: Move iova_bitmap into iommu core Joao Martins
2023-10-13 15:48   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:00     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 16:04       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:23         ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 17:10       ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 17:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 17:23           ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 17:28             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 17:32               ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 20:41             ` Alex Williamson
2023-10-13 21:20               ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 21:51                 ` Alex Williamson
2023-10-14  0:02                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 16:25                     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 16:34                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 17:52                         ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 18:05                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 18:15                             ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 18:20                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 18:37                                 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 18:50                                   ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 12:58                                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 15:20                                       ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 15:23                                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 15:44                                           ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 10:19                             ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 12:03                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-18 12:48                                 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 14:23                                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-18 15:34                                     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 15:43                                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-23  1:24 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] iommu: Add iommu_domain ops for dirty tracking Joao Martins
2023-10-13 16:05   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:27     ` Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:24 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] iommufd: Add a flag to enforce dirty tracking on attach Joao Martins
2023-10-13 15:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:14     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 16:16       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:29         ` Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:24 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] iommufd/selftest: Expand mock_domain with dev_flags Joao Martins
2023-10-13 16:02   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:21     ` Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:24 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] iommufd/selftest: Test IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_ENFORCE_DIRTY Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:24 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] iommufd: Dirty tracking data support Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:40   ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 12:06     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 15:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 15:51         ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 16:01           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 16:51             ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 17:13               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 17:30                 ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 18:14                   ` Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] iommufd: Add IOMMU_HWPT_SET_DIRTY Joao Martins
2023-10-13 16:13   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] iommufd/selftest: Test IOMMU_HWPT_SET_DIRTY Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] iommufd: Add IOMMU_HWPT_GET_DIRTY_IOVA Joao Martins
2023-10-13 16:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 16:58     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-13 17:03       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] iommufd/selftest: Test IOMMU_HWPT_GET_DIRTY_IOVA Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] iommufd: Add capabilities to IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] iommufd/selftest: Test out_capabilities in IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] iommufd: Add a flag to skip clearing of IOPTE dirty Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] iommufd/selftest: Test IOMMU_GET_DIRTY_IOVA_NO_CLEAR flag Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] iommu/amd: Add domain_alloc_user based domain allocation Joao Martins
2023-10-17  2:00   ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-10-17  9:07     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 13:10       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 14:14         ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 14:37           ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 15:32             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-18  8:29             ` Vasant Hegde
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] iommu/amd: Access/Dirty bit support in IOPTEs Joao Martins
2023-10-04 17:01   ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17  8:18   ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-10-17  9:54     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 18:32       ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 18:49         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 19:03           ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 22:04             ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 11:47               ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-10-18 20:40             ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 11:46       ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-10-18 13:04       ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-10-18 13:17         ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 13:31           ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 15:50         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] iommu/amd: Print access/dirty bits if supported Joao Martins
2023-10-17  3:48   ` Suthikulpanit, Suravee
2023-10-17  9:07     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18  8:32   ` Vasant Hegde
2023-10-18  8:53     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18  9:03       ` Vasant Hegde
2023-10-18  9:05         ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18 15:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-18 15:55           ` Joao Martins
2023-09-23  1:25 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] iommu/intel: Access/Dirty bit support for SL domains Joao Martins
2023-09-25  7:01   ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-25  9:08     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16  2:26       ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16  0:51   ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16 10:42     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 12:41       ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16  1:37   ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16 10:57     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 11:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 12:58         ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16 12:59           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-16 13:01             ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-17 10:51               ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 12:41                 ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-17 14:16                   ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 14:25                     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-18  2:06                       ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16  2:07   ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16 11:26     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 16:00       ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17  2:08         ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-17 11:22           ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 12:49             ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-17 14:19               ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 13:10             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 14:11               ` Joao Martins
2023-10-17 15:31                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-17 15:54                   ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16  2:21   ` Baolu Lu
2023-10-16 11:39     ` Joao Martins
2023-10-16 13:06       ` Baolu Lu
2023-09-26  8:58 ` [PATCH v3 00/19] IOMMUFD Dirty Tracking Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2023-10-13 16:29 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-10-13 18:11   ` Joao Martins
2023-10-14  7:53     ` Baolu Lu

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