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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com>,
	"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ben@nvidia.com" <ben@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: Locking between vfio hot-remove and pci sysfs sriov_numvfs
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2023 19:48:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231207234810.GN2692119@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231207162148.2631fa58.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 04:21:48PM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 22:38:23 +0000
> Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com> wrote:
> 
> > I am seeing a deadlock using SPDK with hotplug detection using vfio-pci
> > and an SR-IOV enabled NVMe SSD. It is not clear if this deadlock is intended
> > or if it's a kernel bug.
> > 
> > Note: SPDK uses DPDK's PCI device enumeration framework, so I'll reference
> > both SPDK and DPDK in this description.
> > 
> > DPDK registers an eventfd with vfio for hotplug notifications. If the associated
> > device is removed (i.e. write 1 to its pci sysfs remove entry), vfio
> > writes to the eventfd, requesting DPDK to release the device. It does this
> > while holding the device_lock(), and then waits for completion.
> > 
> > DPDK gets the notification, and passes it up to SPDK. SPDK does not release
> > the device immediately. It has some asynchronous operations that need to be
> > performed first, so it will release the device a bit later.
> > 
> > But before the device is released, SPDK also triggers DPDK to do a sysfs scan
> > looking for newly inserted devices. Note that the removed device is not
> > completely removed yet from kernel PCI perspective - all of its sysfs entries
> > are still available, including sriov_numvfs.
> > 
> > DPDK explicitly reads sriov_numvfs to see if the device is SR-IOV capable.
> > SPDK itself doesn't actually use this value, but it is part of the scan
> > triggered by SPDK and directly leads to the deadlock. sriov_numvfs_show()
> > deadlocks because it tries to hold device_lock() while reading the pci
> > device's pdev->sriov->num_VFs.
> > 
> > We're able to workaround this in SPDK by deferring the sysfs scan if
> > a device removal is in process. And maybe that is what we are supposed to
> > be doing, to avoid this deadlock?
> > 
> > Reference to SPDK issue, for some more details (plus simple repro stpes for
> > anyone already familiar with SPDK): https://github.com/spdk/spdk/issues/3205
> 
> device_lock() has been a recurring problem.  We don't have a lot of
> leeway in how we support the driver remove callback, the device needs
> to be released.  We can't return -EBUSY and I don't think we can drop
> the mutex while we're waiting on userspace.

The mechanism of waiting in remove for userspace is inherently flawed,
it can never work fully correctly. :( I've hit this many times.

Upon remove VFIO should immediately remove itself and leave behind a
non-functional file descriptor. Userspace should catch up eventually
and see it is toast.

The kernel locking model just cannot support userspace delaying this
process.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-07 23:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20231207223824uscas1p27dd91f0af56cda282cd28046cc981fe9@uscas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-12-07 22:38 ` Locking between vfio hot-remove and pci sysfs sriov_numvfs Jim Harris
2023-12-07 23:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-12-07 23:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-12-08 17:07       ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 19:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 20:09           ` Jim Harris
2023-12-10 19:05             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11  7:20               ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-12-12 21:34                 ` Jim Harris
2023-12-13  6:55                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-12-08 17:38       ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 17:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 17:59           ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 18:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 18:12               ` Alex Williamson
2023-12-08 19:43                 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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