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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com>
Cc: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	"bhelgaas@google.com" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"linux-pci@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"ben@nvidia.com" <ben@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: Locking between vfio hot-remove and pci sysfs sriov_numvfs
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2023 13:41:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20231208174109.GQ2692119@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZXNUqoLgKLZLDluH@bgt-140510-bm01.eng.stellus.in>

On Fri, Dec 08, 2023 at 05:38:51PM +0000, Jim Harris wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 07:48:10PM -0400, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > 
> > The mechanism of waiting in remove for userspace is inherently flawed,
> > it can never work fully correctly. :( I've hit this many times.
> > 
> > Upon remove VFIO should immediately remove itself and leave behind a
> > non-functional file descriptor. Userspace should catch up eventually
> > and see it is toast.
> 
> One nice aspect of the current design is that vfio will leave the BARs
> mapped until userspace releases the vfio handle. It avoids some rather
> nasty hacks for handling SIGBUS errors in the fast path (i.e. writing
> NVMe doorbells) where we cannot try to check for device removal on
> every MMIO write. Would your proposal immediately yank the BARs, without
> waiting for userspace to respond? This is mostly for my curiosity - SPDK
> already has these hacks implemented, so I don't think it would be
> affected by this kind of change in behavior.

What we did in RDMA was map a dummy page to the BARs so the sigbus was
avoided. But in that case RDMA knows the BAR memory is used only for
doorbell write so this is a reasonable thing to do.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-08 17:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20231207223824uscas1p27dd91f0af56cda282cd28046cc981fe9@uscas1p2.samsung.com>
2023-12-07 22:38 ` Locking between vfio hot-remove and pci sysfs sriov_numvfs Jim Harris
2023-12-07 23:21   ` Alex Williamson
2023-12-07 23:48     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 17:07       ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 19:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 20:09           ` Jim Harris
2023-12-10 19:05             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-11  7:20               ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-12-12 21:34                 ` Jim Harris
2023-12-13  6:55                   ` Leon Romanovsky
2023-12-08 17:38       ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 17:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2023-12-08 17:59           ` Jim Harris
2023-12-08 18:01             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2023-12-08 18:12               ` Alex Williamson
2023-12-08 19:43                 ` Jason Gunthorpe

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