From: Michael Roth <michael.roth@amd.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
<seanjc@google.com>, <aik@amd.com>, <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
<thomas.lendacky@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] KVM: SEV: introduce KVM_SEV_INIT2 operation
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2024 08:44:22 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240215144422.st2md65quv34d4tk@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ddabdb1f-9b33-4576-a47f-f19fe5ca6b7e@redhat.com>
On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 02:44:47PM +0100, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> On 2/15/24 02:34, Michael Roth wrote:
> > > + struct struct kvm_sev_init {
> > Missing the vm_type param here.
>
> It can go away in the struct actually. Also, "struct struct".
>
> > > +If the ``KVM_X86_SEV_VMSA_FEATURES`` attribute does not exist, the hypervisor only
> > > +supports KVM_SEV_INIT and KVM_SEV_ES_INIT. In that case the set of VMSA features is
> > > +undefined.
> >
> > It's hard to imagine userspace implementation support for querying
> > KVM_X86_SEV_VMSA_FEATURES but still insisting on KVM_SEV_INIT.
>
> ... except for backwards compatibility with old kernels. For example, the
> VMM could first invoke HAS_DEVICE_ATTR, and then fall back to KVM_SEV_INIT
> after checking that the user did not explicitly request or forbid one or
> more VMSA features.
What I mean is that if userspace is modified for these checks, it's
reasonable to also inform them that only VMSA features present in
those older kernels (i.e. debug-swap) will be available via KVM_SEV_INIT,
and for anything else they will need to use KVM_SEV_INIT.
That way we can provide clear documentation on what to expect regarding
VMSA features for KVM_SEV_INIT and not have to have the "undefined"
wording: it'll never use anything other than debug-swap depending on the
module param setting.
>
> > Maybe it
> > would be better to just lock in that VMSA_FEATURES at what is currently
> > supported: DEBUG_SWAP=on/off depending on the kvm_amd module param, and
> > then for all other features require opt-in via KVM_SEV_INIT2, and then
> > bake that into the documentation. That way way they could still reference
> > this documentation to properly calculate measurements for older/existing
> > VMM implementations.
>
> Thinking more about it, I think all features including debug_swap should be
> disabled with the old SEV_INIT/SEV_ES_INIT. Because the features need to
> match between the VMM and the measurement calculation, they need to be added
> explicitly on e.g. the QEMU command line.
That seems reasonable, but the main thing I was hoping to avoid was
another round of VMSA features changing out from underneath the covers
again. The module param setting is something we've needed to convey
internally/externally a good bit due to the fallout and making this
change would lead to another repeat. Not the end of the world but would
be nice to avoid if possible.
-Mike
>
> Paolo
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-02-15 14:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-02-09 18:37 [PATCH 00/10] KVM: SEV: allow customizing VMSA features Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 01/10] KVM: SEV: fix compat ABI for KVM_MEMORY_ENCRYPT_OP Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-14 22:50 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 02/10] KVM: introduce new vendor op for KVM_GET_DEVICE_ATTR Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-14 22:57 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 03/10] Documentation: kvm/sev: separate description of firmware Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-14 23:23 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 04/10] KVM: SEV: publish supported VMSA features Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-14 23:49 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 05/10] KVM: SEV: store VMSA features in kvm_sev_info Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-15 0:03 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 06/10] KVM: x86: define standard behavior for bits 0/1 of VM type Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 07/10] KVM: x86: Add is_vm_type_supported callback Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-15 0:33 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-15 13:35 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 08/10] KVM: SEV: define VM types for SEV and SEV-ES Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-15 1:19 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-15 13:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 09/10] KVM: SEV: introduce KVM_SEV_INIT2 operation Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-15 1:34 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-15 13:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-15 14:44 ` Michael Roth [this message]
2024-02-15 17:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-15 17:54 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-15 18:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-15 20:44 ` Michael Roth
2024-02-15 11:07 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2024-02-15 21:14 ` Tom Lendacky
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 10/10] selftests: kvm: add tests for KVM_SEV_INIT2 Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 11/10] selftests: kvm: switch sev_migrate_tests to KVM_SEV_INIT2 Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-09 19:40 ` [PATCH 00/10] KVM: SEV: allow customizing VMSA features Sean Christopherson
2024-02-09 22:40 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-13 2:46 ` Sean Christopherson
2024-02-13 14:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2024-02-17 1:40 ` Sean Christopherson
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