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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Keith Busch <kbusch@meta.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH rfc] vfio-pci: Allow write combining
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:53:39 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240801175339.GB4830@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240801113344.1d5b5bfe.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 11:33:44AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 1 Aug 2024 14:13:55 -0300
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 01, 2024 at 10:52:18AM -0600, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > > > > vfio_region_info.flags in not currently tested for input therefore this
> > > > > proposal could lead to unexpected behavior for a caller that doesn't
> > > > > currently zero this field.  It's intended as an output-only field.    
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps a REGION_INFO2 then?
> > > > 
> > > > I still think per-request is better than a global flag  
> > > 
> > > I don't understand why we'd need a REGION_INFO2, we already have
> > > support for defining new regions.  
> > 
> > It is not a new region, it is a modified mmap behavior for an existing
> > region.
> 
> If we're returning a different offset into the vfio device file from
> which to get a WC mapping, what's the difference? 

I think it is a pretty big difference.. The offset is just a "mmap
cookie", it doesn't have to be 1:1 with the idea of a region.

> A vfio "region" is
> describing a region or range of the vfio device file descriptor.

I'm thinking a region is describing an area of memory that is
available in the VFIO device. The offset output is just a "mmap
cookie" to tell userspace how to mmap it. Having N mmap cookies for 1
region is OK.

> > > We'd populate these new regions only for BARs that support prefetch and
> > > mmap   
> >
> > That's not the point, prefetch has nothing to do with write combining.
> 
> I was following the original proposal in this thread that added a
> prefetch flag to REGION_INFO and allowed enabling WC only for
> IORESOURCE_PREFETCH.

Oh, I didn't notice that, it shouldn't do that. Returning the
VFIO_REGION_FLAG_WRITE_COMBINE makes sense, but it shouldn't effect
what the kernel allows.

> > Doubling all the region indexes just for WC does not seem like a good
> > idea to me...
> 
> Is the difference you see that in the REQ_WC proposal the user is
> effectively asking vfio to pop a WC region into existence vs here
> they're pre-populated? 

?? This didn't create more regions AFAICT. It created a new global

+	bool			bar_write_combine[PCI_STD_NUM_BARS];

Which controls what NC/WC the mmap creates when called:

+	if (vdev->bar_write_combine[index])
+		vma->vm_page_prot = pgprot_writecombine(vma->vm_page_prot);
+	else
+		vma->vm_page_prot = pgprot_noncached(vma->vm_page_prot);

You get the same output from REGION_INFO, same number of regions.

It was the other proposal from long ago that created more regions.

This is what I like and would prefer to stick with. REGION_INFO
doesn't really change, we don't have two regions refering to the same
physical memory, and we find some way to request NC/WC of a region at
mmap time.

A global is a neat trick, but it would be cleaner to request
properties of the mmap when the "mmap cookie" is obtained.

> At the limit they're the same.  We could use a
> DEVICE_FEATURE to ask vfio to selectively populate WC regions after
> which the user could re-enumerate additional regions, or in fact to
> switch on WC for a given region if we want to go that route.  Thanks,

This is still adding more regions and reporting more stuff from
REGION_INFO, that is what I would like to avoid.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2024-08-01 17:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-31 15:53 [PATCH rfc] vfio-pci: Allow write combining Keith Busch
2024-08-01 14:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-01 15:41   ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-01 16:11     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-01 16:52       ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-01 17:13         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-01 17:33           ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-01 17:53             ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-08-01 18:16               ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-02 11:53                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-02 17:05                   ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-06 16:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 18:43                       ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-07 14:19                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-07 17:46                           ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-13 18:02                             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-02 14:24             ` Keith Busch
2024-08-02 14:33               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06  7:19                 ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-06 16:47                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-15  5:05               ` Christoph Hellwig

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