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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Kirti Wankhede <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] vfio/mdev: inline needed class_compat functionality
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 09:37:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241206093733.1d887dfc.alex.williamson@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2024120617-icon-bagel-86b3@gregkh>

On Fri, 6 Dec 2024 08:42:02 +0100
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 06, 2024 at 08:35:47AM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:
> > On 04.12.2024 20:30, Alex Williamson wrote:  
> > > On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 19:16:03 +0100
> > > Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > >   
> > >> On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 06:01:36PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:  
> > >>> On 04.12.2024 10:32, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:    
> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 09:11:47PM +0100, Heiner Kallweit wrote:    
> > >>>>> vfio/mdev is the last user of class_compat, and it doesn't use it for
> > >>>>> the intended purpose. See kdoc of class_compat_register():
> > >>>>> Compatibility class are meant as a temporary user-space compatibility
> > >>>>> workaround when converting a family of class devices to a bus devices.    
> > >>>>
> > >>>> True, so waht is mdev doing here?
> > >>>>     
> > >>>>> In addition it uses only a part of the class_compat functionality.
> > >>>>> So inline the needed functionality, and afterwards all class_compat
> > >>>>> code can be removed.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> No functional change intended. Compile-tested only.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Signed-off-by: Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> ---
> > >>>>>  drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c | 12 ++++++------
> > >>>>>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> diff --git a/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c b/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c
> > >>>>> index ed4737de4..a22c49804 100644
> > >>>>> --- a/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c
> > >>>>> +++ b/drivers/vfio/mdev/mdev_core.c
> > >>>>> @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
> > >>>>>  #define DRIVER_AUTHOR		"NVIDIA Corporation"
> > >>>>>  #define DRIVER_DESC		"Mediated device Core Driver"
> > >>>>>  
> > >>>>> -static struct class_compat *mdev_bus_compat_class;
> > >>>>> +static struct kobject *mdev_bus_kobj;    
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>     
> > >>>>>  
> > >>>>>  static LIST_HEAD(mdev_list);
> > >>>>>  static DEFINE_MUTEX(mdev_list_lock);
> > >>>>> @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ int mdev_register_parent(struct mdev_parent *parent, struct device *dev,
> > >>>>>  	if (ret)
> > >>>>>  		return ret;
> > >>>>>  
> > >>>>> -	ret = class_compat_create_link(mdev_bus_compat_class, dev, NULL);
> > >>>>> +	ret = sysfs_create_link(mdev_bus_kobj, &dev->kobj, dev_name(dev));    
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This feels really wrong, why create a link to a random kobject?  Who is
> > >>>> using this kobject link?
> > >>>>     
> > >>>>>  	if (ret)
> > >>>>>  		dev_warn(dev, "Failed to create compatibility class link\n");
> > >>>>>  
> > >>>>> @@ -98,7 +98,7 @@ void mdev_unregister_parent(struct mdev_parent *parent)
> > >>>>>  	dev_info(parent->dev, "MDEV: Unregistering\n");
> > >>>>>  
> > >>>>>  	down_write(&parent->unreg_sem);
> > >>>>> -	class_compat_remove_link(mdev_bus_compat_class, parent->dev, NULL);
> > >>>>> +	sysfs_remove_link(mdev_bus_kobj, dev_name(parent->dev));
> > >>>>>  	device_for_each_child(parent->dev, NULL, mdev_device_remove_cb);
> > >>>>>  	parent_remove_sysfs_files(parent);
> > >>>>>  	up_write(&parent->unreg_sem);
> > >>>>> @@ -251,8 +251,8 @@ static int __init mdev_init(void)
> > >>>>>  	if (ret)
> > >>>>>  		return ret;
> > >>>>>  
> > >>>>> -	mdev_bus_compat_class = class_compat_register("mdev_bus");
> > >>>>> -	if (!mdev_bus_compat_class) {
> > >>>>> +	mdev_bus_kobj = class_pseudo_register("mdev_bus");    
> > >>>>
> > >>>> But this isn't a class, so let's not fake it please.  Let's fix this
> > >>>> properly, odds are all of this code can just be removed entirely, right?
> > >>>>     
> > >>>
> > >>> After I removed class_compat from i2c core, I asked Alex basically the
> > >>> same thing: whether class_compat support can be removed from vfio/mdev too.
> > >>>
> > >>> His reply:
> > >>> I'm afraid we have active userspace tools dependent on
> > >>> /sys/class/mdev_bus currently, libvirt for one.  We link mdev parent
> > >>> devices here and I believe it's the only way for userspace to find
> > >>> those parent devices registered for creating mdev devices.  If there's a
> > >>> desire to remove class_compat, we might need to add some mdev
> > >>> infrastructure to register the class ourselves to maintain the parent
> > >>> links.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> It's my understanding that /sys/class/mdev_bus has nothing in common
> > >>> with an actual class, it's just a container for devices which at least
> > >>> partially belong to other classes. And there's user space tools depending
> > >>> on this structure.    
> > >>
> > >> That's odd, when this was added, why was it added this way?  The
> > >> class_compat stuff is for when classes move around, yet this was always
> > >> done in this way?
> > >>
> > >> And what tools use this symlink today that can't be updated?  
> > > 
> > > It's been this way for 8 years, so it's hard to remember exact
> > > motivation for using this mechanism, whether we just didn't look hard
> > > enough at the class_compat or it didn't pass by the right set of eyes.
> > > Yes, it's always been this way for the mdev_bus class.
> > > 
> > > The intention here is much like other classes, that we have a node in
> > > sysfs where we can find devices that provide a common feature, in this
> > > case providing support for creating and managing vfio mediated devices
> > > (mdevs).  The perhaps unique part of this use case is that these devices
> > > aren't strictly mdev providers, they might also belong to another class
> > > and the mdev aspect of their behavior might be dynamically added after
> > > the device itself is added.
> > > 
> > > I've done some testing with this series and it does indeed seem to
> > > maintain compatibility with existing userspace tools, mdevctl and
> > > libvirt.  We can update these tools, but then we get into the breaking  
> > 
> > Greg, is this testing, done by Alex, sufficient for you to take the series?  
> 
> Were devices actually removed from the system and all worked well?

Creating and removing virtual mdev devices as well as unloading and
re-loading modules for the parent device providing the mdev support.

> > > userspace and deprecation period questions, where we may further delay
> > > removal of class_compat.  Also if we were to re-implement this, is there
> > > a better mechanism than proposed here within the class hierarchy, or
> > > would you recommend a non-class approach?  Thanks,
> > >   
> > 
> > You have /sys/bus/mdev. Couldn't we create a directory here which holds
> > the links to the devices in question?  
> 
> Links to devices is not what class links are for, so why is this in
> /sys/class/ at all?

Sorry, I'm confused.  I look in /sys/class/block and /sys/class/net and
I only see links to devices.  /sys/class/mdev_bus has links to devices
that have registered as supporting the mdev interface for creating
devices in /sys/bus/mdev.  We could link these devices somewhere else,
but there are existing projects, userspace scripts, and documentation
that references and relies on this layout.  Whatever we decide it
should have been 8 years ago is going to need yet another compatibility
interface/link to avoid breaking userspace.

> > Then user space would simply have to switch from /sys/class/mdev_bus
> > to /sys/bus/mdev/<new_dir>.  
>
> I think you are confusing what /sys/class/ is for here, if you have
> devices on a "bus" then they need to be in /sys/bus/   class has nothing
> to do with that.
> 
> So can we just drop the /sys/class/ mistake entirely?

Not without breaking userspace.  /sys/bus/mdev is used for enumerating
the virtual mdev devics that are created by devices supporting the mdev
interface, where the latter are enumerated in /sys/class/mdev_bus.
Thanks,

Alex


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-06 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-03 20:08 [PATCH 0/3] driver core: class: remove class_compat code Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-03 20:10 ` [PATCH 1/3] driver core: class: add class_pseudo_register Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04  9:33   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 17:04     ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04 18:17       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 19:35         ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-03 20:11 ` [PATCH 2/3] vfio/mdev: inline needed class_compat functionality Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04  9:32   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 17:01     ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04 18:16       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-04 19:30         ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-06  7:35           ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-06  7:42             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-06 16:37               ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2024-12-07  8:38                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-07 10:06                   ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-07 10:23                     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-12  4:42                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-12 18:12                       ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-12 18:21                         ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2024-12-12 18:39                           ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-13 14:53                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2024-12-06 17:05               ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-04 19:35         ` Heiner Kallweit
2025-01-10 14:35   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-01-13 22:09     ` Alex Williamson
2024-12-03 20:12 ` [PATCH 3/3] driver core: class: remove class_compat code Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-12  4:27 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Christoph Hellwig

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