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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Wencheng Yang <east.moutain.yang@gmail.com>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] drviers/iommu/amd: support P2P access through IOMMU when SME is enabled
Date: Tue, 21 Jan 2025 16:47:58 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250121204758.GR674319@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250121083443.3984579a.alex.williamson@redhat.com>

On Tue, Jan 21, 2025 at 08:34:43AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:

> This description is unclear to me.  As others have noted, we probably
> need to look at whether the flag should be automatically applied by the
> kernel.  We certainly know in the vfio IOMMU layer whether we're
> mapping a page or a pfnmap.  

It is not page or pfnmap.. When vfio is using follow_pte() it should
extract information from the PTE and then relay it to the IOMMU. The
iommu page table and the CPU page table should have the same PTE
flags.

So, a pte that is pgprot_cached() should be IOMMU_CACHE, otherwise
IOMMU_MMIO.

The encrypted bit in the PTE should be mapped to some new
IOMMU_ENCRYPTED.

I suspect AMD has created a troublesome issue that IOMMU_CACHE
conditionally implies encrypted depending on their platform features
(meaning cachable decrypted is impossible). Arguably a higher level
should be deciding this and the iommu page table code should simply
follow IOMMU_ENCRYPTED always.

That might be something for later, but I would note it :\

> In any case, we're in the process of phasing out the vfio type1
> IOMMU backend for iommufd, so whatever the implementation, and
> especially if there's a uapi component, it needs to be implemented
> in iommufd first. 

Since iommufd won't be using follow_pte() it will have to get this
meta information from the FD, eg through DMABUf, and there is a huge
thread on how to go about doing that..

There should be no uapi component.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-21 20:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-17  7:14 [PATCH v2] drviers/iommu/amd: support P2P access through IOMMU when SME is enabled Wencheng Yang
2025-01-17 13:44 ` Alex Williamson
2025-01-21 11:07   ` Wencheng Yang
2025-01-21 11:28     ` [PATCH v3 1/3] uapi/linux/vfio:Add VFIO_DMA_MAP_FLAG_MMIO flag Wencheng Yang
2025-01-21 11:28       ` [PATCH v3 2/3] vfio/vfio_iommu_type1:convert VFIO_DMA_MAP_FLAG_MMIO to IOMMU_MMIO flag Wencheng Yang
2025-01-21 11:28       ` [PATCH v3 3/3] iommu/amd:Clear encryption bit if the mapping is for device MMIO Wencheng Yang
2025-01-21 14:05       ` [PATCH v3 1/3] uapi/linux/vfio:Add VFIO_DMA_MAP_FLAG_MMIO flag Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-21 15:34     ` [PATCH v2] drviers/iommu/amd: support P2P access through IOMMU when SME is enabled Alex Williamson
2025-01-21 20:47       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-01-20 13:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-01-21  9:27   ` Wencheng Yang

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