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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	rangemachine@gmail.com, whanos@sergal.fun,
	Ravi Bangoria <ravi.bangoria@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] KVM: SVM: Zero DEBUGCTL before VMRUN if necessary
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2025 16:56:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250225155656.GE34233@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250224181315.2376869-1-seanjc@google.com>

On Mon, Feb 24, 2025 at 10:13:12AM -0800, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> PeterZ,
> 
> Can you confirm that the last patch (snapshot and restore DEBUGCTL with
> IRQs disabled) is actually necessary?  I'm 99% certain it is, but I'm
> holding out hope that it somehow isn't, because I don't love the idea of
> adding a RDMSR to every VM-Entry.

I think you're right. I mean, I'd have to go double check and trace the
various call paths again, but I'd be very surprised if we can't change
DEBUGCTL from NMI context.

> Assuming DEBUGCTL can indeed get modified in IRQ context, it probably
> makes sense to add a per-CPU cache to eliminate the RDMSR.  Unfortunately,
> there are quite a few open-coded WRMSRs, so it's not a trivial change.

This, I'm surprised we've not yet done that.

> On to the main event...
> 
> Fix a long-lurking bug in SVM where KVM runs the guest with the host's
> DEBUGCTL if LBR virtualization is disabled.  AMD CPUs rather stupidly
> context switch DEBUGCTL if and only if LBR virtualization is enabled (not
> just supported, but fully enabled).
> 
> The bug has gone unnoticed because until recently, the only bits that
> KVM would leave set were things like BTF, which are guest visible but
> won't cause functional problems unless guest software is being especially
> particular about #DBs.
> 
> The bug was exposed by the addition of BusLockTrap ("Detect" in the kernel),
> as the resulting #DBs due to split-lock accesses in guest userspace (lol
> Steam) get reflected into the guest by KVM.

Hehe, yeah, games. Yeah we ran into that with bus-lock on intel too :-)

      parent reply	other threads:[~2025-02-25 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-24 18:13 [PATCH 0/3] KVM: SVM: Zero DEBUGCTL before VMRUN if necessary Sean Christopherson
2025-02-24 18:13 ` [PATCH 1/3] KVM: x86: Snapshot the host's DEBUGCTL in common x86 Sean Christopherson
2025-02-25 16:19   ` Xiaoyao Li
2025-02-24 18:13 ` [PATCH 2/3] KVM: SVM: Manually zero/restore DEBUGCTL if LBR virtualization is disabled Sean Christopherson
2025-02-26  6:15   ` Ravi Bangoria
2025-02-26 15:42     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-24 18:13 ` [PATCH 3/3] KVM: x86: Snapshot the host's DEBUGCTL after disabling IRQs Sean Christopherson
2025-02-25 15:56 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]

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