From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Alex Williamson <alex@shazbot.org>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
"Joerg Roedel" <joro@8bytes.org>,
"Kevin Tian" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
kvm@vger.kernel.org, linaro-mm-sig@lists.linaro.org,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
"Sumit Semwal" <sumit.semwal@linaro.org>,
"Will Deacon" <will@kernel.org>,
"Krishnakant Jaju" <kjaju@nvidia.com>,
"Leon Romanovsky" <leon@kernel.org>,
"Matt Ochs" <mochs@nvidia.com>,
"Nicolin Chen" <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
patches@lists.linux.dev, "Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"Vivek Kasireddy" <vivek.kasireddy@intel.com>,
"Xu Yilun" <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/9] Initial DMABUF support for iommufd
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2025 11:50:17 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251117155017.GF10864@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251113113712.5691cbaf.alex@shazbot.org>
On Thu, Nov 13, 2025 at 11:37:12AM -0700, Alex Williamson wrote:
> > The latest series for interconnect negotation to exchange a phys_addr is:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/r/20251027044712.1676175-1-vivek.kasireddy@intel.com
>
> If this is in development, why are we pursuing a vfio specific
> temporary "private interconnect" here rather than building on that
> work? What are the gaps/barriers/timeline?
I broadly don't expect to see an agreement on the above for probably
half a year, and I see no reason to hold this up for it. Many people
are asking for this P2P support to be completed in iommufd.
Further, I think the above will be easier to work on when we have this
merged as an example that can consume it in a different way. Right now
it is too theoretical, IMHO.
> I don't see any uAPI changes here, is there any visibility to userspace
> whether IOMMUFD supports this feature or is it simply a try and fail
> approach?
So far we haven't done discoverably things beyond try and fail.
I'd be happy if the userspace folks doing libvirt or whatever came
with some requests/patches for discoverability. It is not just this
feature, but things like nesting and IOMMU driver support and so on.
> The latter makes it difficult for management tools to select
> whether to choose a VM configuration based on IOMMUFD or legacy vfio if
> p2p DMA is a requirement. Thanks,
In alot of cases it isn't really a choice as you need iommufd to do an
accelerated vIOMMU.
But yes, it would be nice to eventually automatically use iommufd
whenever possible.
Thanks,
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-17 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-07 16:49 [PATCH 0/9] Initial DMABUF support for iommufd Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 1/9] vfio/pci: Add vfio_pci_dma_buf_iommufd_map() Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-20 7:49 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-20 17:34 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 2/9] iommufd: Add DMABUF to iopt_pages Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-07 18:02 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-20 7:55 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-21 14:27 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 3/9] iommufd: Do not map/unmap revoked DMABUFs Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-07 18:30 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-20 7:56 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 4/9] iommufd: Allow a DMABUF to be revoked Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-13 23:26 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-20 7:58 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 5/9] iommufd: Allow MMIO pages in a batch Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-13 23:28 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-20 7:59 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-20 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 6/9] iommufd: Have pfn_reader process DMABUF iopt_pages Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-13 23:39 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-18 19:38 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-20 8:04 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-21 0:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-21 14:33 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 7/9] iommufd: Have iopt_map_file_pages convert the fd to a file Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-13 23:43 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-20 8:05 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 8/9] iommufd: Accept a DMABUF through IOMMU_IOAS_MAP_FILE Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-14 0:05 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-18 19:44 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-18 19:57 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-20 8:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-07 16:49 ` [PATCH 9/9] iommufd/selftest: Add some tests for the dmabuf flow Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-07 19:43 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-18 19:25 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-11-20 8:06 ` Tian, Kevin
2025-11-07 17:52 ` [PATCH 0/9] Initial DMABUF support for iommufd Nicolin Chen
2025-11-13 6:33 ` Shuai Xue
2025-11-13 7:34 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-13 11:32 ` Shuai Xue
2025-11-13 17:44 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-11-13 18:37 ` Alex Williamson
2025-11-17 15:50 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-11-18 5:37 ` Kasireddy, Vivek
2025-11-18 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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