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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Hildenbrand <david@kernel.org>,
	Lorenzo Stoakes <ljs@kernel.org>,
	"Liam R. Howlett" <liam@infradead.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@kernel.org>,
	Mike Rapoport <rppt@kernel.org>,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	Clark Williams <clrkwllms@kernel.org>,
	Simona Vetter <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	Christian Koenig <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-devel@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2026 10:20:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260827082019.xrNuIfE2@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4415dbf2-10b0-4cb1-b045-13dbcd69c5d5@paulmck-laptop>

On 2026-08-26 14:04:32 [-0700], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > >Anyway, easy enough:
> > >
> > >#ifdef CONFIG_PREEMPT_RT
> > >DEFINE_SRCU(whatever);
> > >#define my_srcu_read_lock() srcu_read_lock(&whatever);
> > >#define my_srcu_read_unlock(idx) srcu_read_unlock(&whatever, (idx));
> > >#define my_synchronize_srcu() synchronize_srcu(&whatever);
> > >#else
> > >DEFINE_SRCU_ATOMIC(whatever);
> > >#define my_srcu_read_lock() srcu_read_lock_atomic(&whatever);
> > >#define my_srcu_read_unlock(idx) srcu_read_unlock_atomic(&whatever, (idx));
> > >#define my_synchronize_srcu() synchronize_srcu_atomic(&whatever);
> > >#endif
> > 
> > We could do that for the KVM GPC locking, but more consistent would be to change *all* users of the 'atomic' lock under PREEMPT_RT to silently get the sleeping version instead, like PREEMPT_RT does with spinlocks and rwlocks.
> > 
> > So it's srcu_read_lock_atomic() itself (et al) which would get that if/else treatment.
> 
> OK, the traditional approach is that raw_synchronize_srcu_atomic() and
> friends with the raw_ prefix are always atomic, and without the raw_
> prefix it is atomic for !PREEMPT_RT and non-atomic otherwise.  You would
> use the non-_raw primitives.
> 
> Easy enough to do.  But does it do the job, both from a PREEMPT_RT
> perspective and a notifier perspective?

It does not lead to any lock violations so that is a plus.

> And notifiers (though a different type of them) were the first use case
> for SRCU.  ;-)
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-27  8:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-11  8:58 [PATCH] mm/mmu_notifier: Remove non_block_start/end() from notifier invocation David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 13:55 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:21   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:27     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 14:33       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 14:42         ` Steven Rostedt
2026-08-11 15:24           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12  8:14             ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-12  8:21               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 12:27                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 13:46                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 13:49                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 14:05                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 14:26                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 14:38                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-13 10:05                             ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-13 13:59                               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-13 14:40                                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 14:34                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 15:03                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 15:49                             ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 16:20                               ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-12 17:17                                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 21:38                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-13  7:54                                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-18 18:18                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-18 18:28                                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-20 14:43                                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-21 17:38                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-25 12:15                                             ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-25 16:47                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-25 17:05                                                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-25 17:19                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-25 17:48                                                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-25 18:16                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-25 19:58                                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-25 20:51                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-26  7:32                                                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-26  7:38                                                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-26 15:05                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                                                                   ` <98e123c9-3dc4-45fb-815b-881b3346741c@paulmck-laptop>
2026-08-26 18:01                                                                     ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-26 19:59                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-26 20:30                                                                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-26 21:04                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2026-08-27  8:20                                                                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2026-08-12 16:04                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-12 16:07                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-12 17:49                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-20 13:30                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-20 14:26                                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-20 15:34                                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-08-20 18:49                                       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12  8:13           ` Michal Hocko
2026-08-11 15:29         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:15       ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 15:29           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 16:24             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:22               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 17:26                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 17:59                   ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 18:19                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-08-11 20:06                       ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 20:21                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2026-08-11 21:14                           ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 22:58                             ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 23:50                               ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 10:25                                 ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-12 16:07                                 ` Sean Christopherson
2026-08-11 20:29                         ` David Woodhouse
2026-08-11 15:12 ` David Hildenbrand (Arm)

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