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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
Cc: Sonang Patel <sonangp@nvidia.com>,
	linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, iommu@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>,
	Kevin Tian <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
	Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
	Shameer Kolothum <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v6 11/11] PCI/TSM: Add reference-counted contexts for vdevice providers
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2026 10:06:22 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20261002130622.GB3481470@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq5av77ktyrs.fsf@kernel.org>

On Fri, Oct 02, 2026 at 11:44:15AM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 29, 2026 at 12:17:30AM +0530, Sonang Patel wrote:
> >> On Thu, 17 Sep 2026 19:31:59 +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm) wrote:
> >> > +		if (is_pci_tsm_pf0(pdev)) {
> >> > +			if (pci_tsm_disconnect(pdev))
> >> > +				pci_warn(pdev, "TSM connection is still in use\n");
> >> > +		} else {
> >> > +			tsm_remove(pdev->tsm);
> >> > +		}
> >> 
> >> What happens if the PCI device is removed (e.g. sysfs remove, surprise
> >> hot-unplug) while the vDEVICE/TDI still exists?
> >> Since removal cannot be refused, should the remove path still force
> >> the unbind/unlock?
> >
> > vfio prevents that. It currently will block the sysfs remove until
> > vfio is closed.
> 
> This came up during a Codex review of my patch set. The question is what
> happens if function 1 is assigned to the guest and function 0 is then
> removed through sysfs. Is that allowed? 

It can happen and I don't know we can do anything to prevent it.

> If so, it could be a problem because function 1 is not unbound and
> can continue to be used, while
> removing function 0 tears down DOE and IDE via:
> 
> 	pci_doe_destroy(dev);
> 	pci_ide_destroy(dev);

Ah, PCI sig keeps on giving..

The actual measurements are per function but the SPDM channel is per
device!

At least for RMM is this a problem? It looks like the spec handles
this case the function 0 destroys IDE and commands related to the
other functions will just start failing.

So I would expect the OS implementation here to have similar
properties that even though function 0 is gone the other functions
still 'work' in that they get the RMM defined failures for these
conditions.

Basically, this shouldn't result in a TSM hot unplug of function
1.. Trying to do multi-device operations is always a locking mess it
should be avoided.

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-02 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-17 14:01 [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 01/11] vfio: cache KVM VM file references instead of raw struct kvm pointers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-30  7:19     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 02/11] vfio: cdev: Reject duplicate bind before updating KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  7:53   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-25  5:49     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 03/11] iommufd/device: Associate KVM file pointer with iommufd_device Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 04/11] iommufd/viommu: Keep a reference to the KVM file Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-30 13:28   ` Vasant Hegde
2026-10-02  5:26     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 05/11] iommu: Add a helper to validate a vIOMMU parent Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:48     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:23       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 10:36         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 12:11           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 15:39             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 16:17               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 18:08                 ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-28 18:20                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 22:24                     ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-28 23:03                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29  5:55                         ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-29 12:30                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29 23:15                             ` Jacob Pan
2026-09-29 23:30                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 06/11] iommu: Add a helper to query vIOMMU hardware parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  5:59     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 07/11] coco: tsm: Expose active-user lifetime references Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 08/11] iommufd: Add vIOMMU provider support Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:08     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:39       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28  3:41         ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-29  6:14           ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-29 12:17             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29 12:45               ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-29 13:06                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-29 15:58                   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-29 19:10                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28 10:51         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 09/11] iommufd: Add the vdevice TSM request ioctl Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-18 13:09   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2026-09-18 13:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-30  8:03     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-30 13:26       ` Vasant Hegde
2026-09-30 14:03         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-30 14:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 10/11] PCI/TSM: Remove the legacy guest request interface Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-17 14:01 ` [RFC PATCH v6 11/11] PCI/TSM: Add reference-counted contexts for vdevice providers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-09-24  8:17   ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:41   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:15     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28 18:47   ` Sonang Patel
2026-09-28 23:08     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-10-02  6:14       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-10-02 13:06         ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-09-17 14:17 ` [RFC PATCH v6 00/11] iommufd: Infrastructure for vIOMMU creation for confidential guests and guest TSM requests Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-24  7:48 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:20   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-28  3:35     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-28 13:08       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  8:29   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-28  3:41     ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-28  3:55       ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-24 19:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-25  6:46   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-25 12:45     ` Jason Gunthorpe

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