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From: "Kalra, Ashish" <ashish.kalra@amd.com>
To: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com,
	bp@alien8.de, dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	hpa@zytor.com, thomas.lendacky@amd.com, john.allen@amd.com,
	herbert@gondor.apana.org.au, michael.roth@amd.com,
	dionnaglaze@google.com, nikunj@amd.com, ardb@kernel.org,
	kevinloughlin@google.com, Neeraj.Upadhyay@amd.com, aik@amd.com,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 6/7] KVM: SVM: Add support to initialize SEV/SNP functionality in KVM
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 15:39:05 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <217bc786-4c81-4a7a-9c66-71f971c2e8fd@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8YV64JanLqzo-DS@google.com>

On 3/3/2025 2:49 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 03, 2025, Ashish Kalra wrote:
>> On 2/28/2025 4:32 PM, Sean Christopherson wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, Ashish Kalra wrote:
>>>> And the other consideration is that runtime setup of especially SEV-ES VMs will not
>>>> work if/when first SEV-ES VM is launched, if SEV INIT has not been issued at 
>>>> KVM setup time.
>>>>
>>>> This is because qemu has a check for SEV INIT to have been done (via SEV platform
>>>> status command) prior to launching SEV-ES VMs via KVM_SEV_INIT2 ioctl. 
>>>>
>>>> So effectively, __sev_guest_init() does not get invoked in case of launching 
>>>> SEV_ES VMs, if sev_platform_init() has not been done to issue SEV INIT in 
>>>> sev_hardware_setup().
>>>>
>>>> In other words the deferred initialization only works for SEV VMs and not SEV-ES VMs.
>>>
>>> In that case, I vote to kill off deferred initialization entirely, and commit to
>>> enabling all of SEV+ when KVM loads (which we should have done from day one).
>>> Assuming we can do that in a way that's compatible with the /dev/sev ioctls.
>>
>> Yes, that's what seems to be the right approach to enabling all SEV+ when KVM loads. 
>>
>> For SEV firmware hotloading we will do implicit SEV Shutdown prior to DLFW_EX
>> and SEV (re)INIT after that to ensure that SEV is in UNINIT state before
>> DLFW_EX.
>>
>> We still probably want to keep the deferred initialization for SEV in 
>> __sev_guest_init() by calling sev_platform_init() to support the SEV INIT_EX
>> case.
> 
> Refresh me, how does INIT_EX fit into all of this?  I.e. why does it need special
> casing?

For SEV INIT_EX, we need the filesystem to be up and running as the user-supplied
SEV related persistent data is read from a regular file and provided to the
INIT_EX command.

Now, with the modified SEV/SNP init flow, when SEV/SNP initialization is 
performed during KVM module load, then as i believe the filesystem will be
mounted before KVM module loads, so SEV INIT_EX can be supported without
any issues.

Therefore, we don't need deferred initialization support for SEV INIT_EX
in case of KVM being loaded as a module.

But if KVM module is built-in, then filesystem will not be mounted when 
SEV/SNP initialization is done during KVM initialization and in that case
SEV INIT_EX cannot be supported. 

Therefore to support SEV INIT_EX when KVM module is built-in, the following
will need to be done:

- Boot kernel with psp_init_on_probe=false command line.
- This ensures that during KVM initialization, only SNP INIT is done.
- Later at runtime, when filesystem has already been mounted, 
SEV VM launch will trigger deferred SEV (INIT_EX) initialization
(via the __sev_guest_init() -> sev_platform_init() code path).

NOTE: psp_init_on_probe module parameter and deferred SEV initialization
during SEV VM launch (__sev_guest_init()->sev_platform_init()) was added
specifically to support SEV INIT_EX case.

Thanks,
Ashish

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-03 21:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-25 20:59 [PATCH v5 0/7] Move initializing SEV/SNP functionality to KVM Ashish Kalra
2025-02-25 20:59 ` [PATCH v5 1/7] crypto: ccp: Move dev_info/err messages for SEV/SNP init and shutdown Ashish Kalra
2025-03-03 14:38   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-02-25 21:00 ` [PATCH v5 2/7] crypto: ccp: Ensure implicit SEV/SNP init and shutdown in ioctls Ashish Kalra
2025-02-27 18:57   ` kernel test robot
2025-03-03 14:50   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-02-25 21:00 ` [PATCH v5 3/7] crypto: ccp: Reset TMR size at SNP Shutdown Ashish Kalra
2025-02-25 21:00 ` [PATCH v5 4/7] crypto: ccp: Register SNP panic notifier only if SNP is enabled Ashish Kalra
2025-03-03 14:56   ` Tom Lendacky
2025-02-25 21:01 ` [PATCH v5 5/7] crypto: ccp: Add new SEV/SNP platform shutdown API Ashish Kalra
2025-02-25 21:01 ` [PATCH v5 6/7] KVM: SVM: Add support to initialize SEV/SNP functionality in KVM Ashish Kalra
2025-02-28 18:31   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-02-28 20:38     ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-02-28 22:32       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-03-03 18:50         ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-03-03 20:49           ` Sean Christopherson
2025-03-03 21:39             ` Kalra, Ashish [this message]
2025-03-04 21:58               ` Sean Christopherson
2025-03-05  1:58                 ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-03-05 22:17                   ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-03-12 23:02                 ` Kalra, Ashish
2025-02-25 21:02 ` [PATCH v5 7/7] crypto: ccp: Move SEV/SNP Platform initialization to KVM Ashish Kalra
2025-03-03 15:35   ` Tom Lendacky

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