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From: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
To: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>, Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: Harald Freudenberger <freude@linux.ibm.com>,
	Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, freude@de.ibm.com, schwidefsky@de.ibm.com,
	heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com, borntraeger@de.ibm.com,
	kwankhede@nvidia.com, bjsdjshi@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, alex.williamson@redhat.com,
	pmorel@linux.vnet.ibm.com, alifm@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	mjrosato@linux.vnet.ibm.com, jjherne@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	thuth@redhat.com, pasic@linux.vnet.ibm.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	fiuczy@linux.vnet.ibm.com, buendgen@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 21/21] s390: doc: detailed specifications for AP virtualization
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:00:57 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2629b201-8eeb-d726-176f-af588e7d569f@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180703135205.2ebb107f.cohuck@redhat.com>

On 07/03/2018 07:52 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:22:10 +0200
> Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> On 07/03/2018 09:46 AM, Harald Freudenberger wrote:
>>> On 02.07.2018 18:28, Halil Pasic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 06/29/2018 11:11 PM, Tony Krowiak wrote:
>>>>> This patch provides documentation describing the AP architecture and
>>>>> design concepts behind the virtualization of AP devices. It also
>>>>> includes an example of how to configure AP devices for exclusive
>>>>> use of KVM guests.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Tony Krowiak <akrowiak@linux.ibm.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>> [..]
>>>>> +
>>>>> +Reserve APQNs for exclusive use of KVM guests
>>>>> +---------------------------------------------
>>>>> +The following block diagram illustrates the mechanism by which APQNs are
>>>>> +reserved:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +                              +------------------+
>>>>> +                 remove       |                  |   unbind
>>>>> +         +------------------->+ cex4queue driver +<-----------+
>>>>> +         |                    |                  |            |
>>>>> +         |                    +------------------+            |
>>>>> +         |                                                    |
>>>>> +         |                                                    |
>>>>> +         |                                                    |
>>>>> ++--------+---------+ register +------------------+      +-----+------+
>>>>> +|                  +<---------+                  | bind |            |
>>>>> +|      ap_bus      |          |  vfio_ap driver  +<-----+    admin   |
>>>>> +|                  +--------->+                  |      |            |
>>>>> ++------------------+  probe   +---+--------+-----+      +------------+
>>>>> +                                  |        |
>>>>> +                           create |        | store APQN
>>>>> +                                  |        |
>>>>> +                                  v        v
>>>>> +                              +---+--------+-----+
>>>>> +                              |                  |
>>>>> +                              |  matrix device   |
>>>>> +                              |                  |
>>>>> +                              +------------------+
>>>>> +
>>>>> +The process for reserving an AP queue for use by a KVM guest is:
>>>>> +
>>>>> +* The vfio-ap driver during its initialization will perform the following:
>>>>> +  * Create the 'vfio_ap' root device - /sys/devices/vfio_ap
>>>>> +  * Create the 'matrix' device in the 'vfio_ap' root
>>>>> +  * Register the matrix device with the device core
>>>>> +* Register with the ap_bus for AP queue devices of type 10 devices (CEX4 and
>>>>> +  newer) and to provide the vfio_ap driver's probe and remove callback
>>>>> +  interfaces. The reason why older devices are not supported is because there
>>>>> +  are no systems available on which to test.
>>>>> +* The admin unbinds queue cc.qqqq from the cex4queue device driver. This results
>>>>> +  in the ap_bus calling the the device driver's remove interface which
>>>>> +  unbinds the cc.qqqq queue device from the driver.
>>>> What if the queue cc.qqqq is already in use? AFAIU unbind is almost as radical as
>>>> pulling a cable. What is the proper procedure an admin should follow before doing
>>>> the unbind?
>>> What do you mean on this level with 'in use'? A unbind destroys the association
>>> between device and driver. There is no awareness of 'in use' or 'not in use' on this
>>> level. This is a hard unbind.
>>>>   
>>
>> Let me try to invoke the DASD analogy. If one for some reason wants to detach
>> a DASD the procedure to follow seems to be (see
>> https://www.ibm.com/support/knowledgecenter/en/linuxonibm/com.ibm.linux.z.lgdd/lgdd_t_dasd_online.html)
>> the following:
>> 1) Unmount.
>> 2) Offline possibly using safe_offline.
>> 3) Detach.
>>
>> Detaching a disk that is currently doing I/O asks for trouble, so the admin is encouraged
>> to make sure there is no pending I/O.
> I don't think we can use dasd (block devices) as a good analogy for
> every kind of device (for starters, consider network devices).
>
>> In case of AP you can interpret my 'in use' as the queue is not empty. In my understanding
>> unbind is supposed to be hard (I used the word radical). That's why I compared it to pulling
>> a cable. So that's why I ask is there stuff the admin is supposed to do before doing the
>> unbind.
> Are you asking for a kind of 'quiescing' operation? I would hope that
> the crypto drivers already can deal with that via flushing the queue,
> not allowing new requests, or whatever. This is not the block device
> case.

As I stated in Message ID: 
<89df60be-63d6-3ed9-4724-321e5b55d50d@linux.ibm.com>,
I believe the queue is flushed when the remove callback is invoked on the
driver.

>
> Anyway, this is an administrative issue. If you don't have a clear
> concept which devices are for host usage and which for guest usage, you
> already have problems.
>
> Speaking of administrative issues, is there libvirt support for vfio-ap
> under development? It would be helpful to validate the approach.

There is libvirt support under development although it is not very far
along at this point.

>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-03 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-29 21:11 [PATCH v6 00/21] s390: vfio-ap: guest dedicated crypto adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 01/21] s390/zcrypt: Add ZAPQ inline function Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 02/21] s390/zcrypt: Review inline assembler constraints Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 03/21] s390/zcrypt: Show load of cards and queues in sysfs Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 04/21] s390/zcrypt: Integrate ap_asm.h into include/asm/ap.h Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 05/21] KVM: s390: CPU model support for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 14:38   ` Christian Borntraeger
2018-07-02 15:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 15:41       ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-02 15:54         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 16:11           ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-02 16:20             ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-02 16:28               ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 14:44                 ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 16:04       ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-02 15:56   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 06/21] KVM: s390: refactor crypto initialization Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 07/21] s390: vfio-ap: base implementation of VFIO AP device driver Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 13:53   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-02 15:39     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 08/21] s390: vfio-ap: register matrix device with VFIO mdev framework Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 14:17   ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-10  7:03     ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-12  7:32       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 15:44   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 09/21] s390: vfio-ap: structure for storing mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-07-06 14:26   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 14:34     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 10/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure adapters Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 12:11   ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-13 12:20     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 11/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure domains Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 12:13   ` Pierre Morel
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 12/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interfaces to configure control domains Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 13/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view matrix mdev matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09 12:20   ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-09 14:38     ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-13 12:24       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-13 16:38         ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 14/21] s390: vfio-ap: implement mediated device open callback Tony Krowiak
2018-07-12 12:47   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 16:03     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-13 10:48       ` Halil Pasic
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 15/21] s390: vfio-ap: configure the guest's AP matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-07-11 23:22   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 14:36     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-12 13:28   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-12 14:37     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 16/21] s390: vfio-ap: sysfs interface to view guest matrix Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 17/21] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_GET_INFO ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 18/21] s390: vfio-ap: zeroize the AP queues Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 19/21] s390: vfio-ap: implement VFIO_DEVICE_RESET ioctl Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 20/21] KVM: s390: Handling of Cypto control block in VSIE Tony Krowiak
2018-06-29 21:11 ` [PATCH v6 21/21] s390: doc: detailed specifications for AP virtualization Tony Krowiak
2018-07-02 16:28   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03  7:46     ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-03  9:22       ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 11:52         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 12:20           ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 13:25             ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 13:58               ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 14:30                 ` Cornelia Huck
2018-07-03 15:25                   ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03 16:14                   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 15:20               ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03 15:17             ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03 15:00           ` Tony Krowiak [this message]
2018-07-03 14:56       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-04  8:31         ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-02 23:10   ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-03 16:36     ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-04 16:31       ` Boris Fiuczynski
2018-07-05 13:29         ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-09  9:21     ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-09 15:50       ` Halil Pasic
2018-07-10  8:49         ` Pierre Morel
2018-07-12  7:26       ` Tony Krowiak
2018-07-03  8:10   ` Harald Freudenberger
2018-07-09  9:02     ` Pierre Morel

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