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From: Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>
To: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Cc: jiangyiwen <jiangyiwen@huawei.com>,
	stefanha@redhat.com, stefanha@gmail.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Discuss about an new idea "Vsock over Virtio-net"
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2018 21:10:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <27cd8ac6-e892-cfaa-cd39-74f39b452681@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55352308-9ceb-413e-44f6-e3dfd8f642cc@redhat.com>


On 2018/11/30 下午8:55, Jason Wang wrote:
>
> On 2018/11/30 下午8:52, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>    If you want to compare it with
>>>> something that would be TCP or QUIC.  The fundamental difference 
>>>> between
>>>> virtio-vsock and e.g. TCP is that TCP operates in a packet loss 
>>>> environment.
>>>> So they are using timers for reliability, and receiver is always 
>>>> free to
>>>> discard any unacked data.
>>> Virtio-net knows nothing above L2, so they are totally transparent 
>>> to device
>>> itself. I still don't get why not using virtio-net instead.
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>> Is your question why is virtio-vsock used instead of TCP on top of IP
>> on top of virtio-net?
>>
>>
>
> No, my question is why not do vsock through virtio-net.
>
> Thanks
>

Just to clarify, it's not about vosck over ethernet, and it's not about 
inventing new features or APIs. It's probably something like:

- Let virtio-net driver probe vsock device and do vosck specific things 
if needed to share as much codes.

- A new kind of sockfd (which is vsock based) for vhost-net for it to do 
vsock specific things (hopefully it can be transparent).

The change should be totally transparent to userspace applications.

Thanks

  reply	other threads:[~2018-11-30 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-11-15  3:56 [RFC] Discuss about an new idea "Vsock over Virtio-net" jiangyiwen
2018-11-15  4:19 ` Jason Wang
2018-11-15  6:46   ` jiangyiwen
2018-11-15  6:49     ` jiangyiwen
2018-11-15  8:19     ` Jason Wang
2018-11-15  9:02       ` jiangyiwen
2018-11-15  9:21         ` Jason Wang
2018-11-16  2:32           ` jiangyiwen
2018-11-16  6:35             ` Jason Wang
2018-11-15  7:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-15  7:38   ` jiangyiwen
2018-11-15  8:10     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-15  8:27       ` Jason Wang
2018-11-15  8:38       ` jiangyiwen
2018-11-15  8:24   ` Jason Wang
2018-11-29 14:00     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-30 12:45       ` Jason Wang
2018-11-30 12:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-30 12:55           ` Jason Wang
2018-11-30 13:10             ` Jason Wang [this message]
2018-11-30 13:40               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-03  3:10                 ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-04  1:31                   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-04  2:21                     ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-04  4:08                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-04  6:01                         ` jiangyiwen
2018-11-30 13:34             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-11-15  9:36 ` Yan Vugenfirer
2018-11-16  2:37   ` jiangyiwen

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