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From: Tomeu Vizoso <tomeu.vizoso@collabora.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"Zach Reizner" <zachr@google.com>,
	"Helen Mae Koike Fornazier" <helen.koike@collabora.co.uk>,
	"David Airlie" <airlied@redhat.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: passing FDs across domains
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:01:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <33a3c022-6c53-4e9c-e999-2caefde3e8fb@collabora.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171114093337.hxz4uvnimets2ca6@sirius.home.kraxel.org>

On 11/14/2017 10:33 AM, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>    Hi,
> 
> [ Cc'ing David Airlie and Marc-André Lureau ]
> 
>>> Lets step back and look at the problem you are trying to solve.
>>>
>>> It seems you want guest wayland applications appear seamless on the host
>>> wayland server, correct?
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>> How does the wayland rendering workflow look like?  As far I know the
>>> wayland protocol doesn't include any rendering.  Rendering happens
>>> client side, into some buffer (one per window), which is then passed to
>>> the server for display compositing.  Correct?  So you basically want
>>> pass that buffer from guest to host?
>>
>> Correct.
>>
>>> What kind of shared memory is used by wayland?
>>> sysv shm?  gbm buffers / dmabufs?
>>
>> Typically, shared memory for CPU-rendered content, and dmabufs for
>> GPU-rendered content.
> 
> Ok.  I guess solving this for virtio-gpu (with virgl enabled) is easiest
> then.  Due to opengl rendering being offloaded to the host gpu the
> guest window content already is in a host gpu buffer.

Yes, besides, we already have virtio-gpu in place which can be improved 
as needed.

I'm more worried about CPU-rendered buffers, as the client is just 
putting in the socket the output of shm_open or similar. There I don't 
see any easy solution which is why I tried to get more "creative".

Thanks,

Tomeu

> So we "only" need to export that buffer as dmabuf and pass it to the
> wayland server.  That still doesn't look trivial though.  qemu must
> manage the dmabufs, so it must be involved somehow; a direct guest
> client -> host server wayland connection (alone) will not work.
> 
> I think we need either a wayland proxy in qemu which rewrites the buffer
> references, or the host wayland server must talk to both guest client
> (vsock could work for that) and qemu (for dmabuf management).  Or some
> mixed model, such as a separate wayland proxy server talking to qemu for
> dmabuf management.
> 
> I suspect in any case we need a wayland protocol extension for a new
> buffer type as passing buffer references from guest to host can't use
> filehandles.
> 
> cheers,
>    Gerd
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-11-14 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-11-13 14:18 passing FDs across domains Tomeu Vizoso
2017-11-14  8:02 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-11-14  8:08   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2017-11-14  9:33     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-11-14 14:01       ` Tomeu Vizoso [this message]
2017-11-14 14:19         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-11-15  8:21           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2017-11-15  9:47             ` Tomeu Vizoso
2017-11-16  9:57           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2017-11-16 10:49             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-11-16 14:36               ` Tomeu Vizoso
2017-11-16 15:51                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-11-22 10:54                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-11-22 15:47                     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-11-23  8:17                       ` Tomeu Vizoso
2017-11-27 10:59                         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2017-11-27 11:59                           ` cross-domain Wayland (Re: passing FDs across domains) Tomeu Vizoso
     [not found]                     ` <bf6ce187-46b6-f01d-4eba-79b035c94426@collabora.com>
     [not found]                       ` <CAAFQd5AJFtK524sh1RStOeE8yagknW_hoJVr6mzMXb=+eL03Bg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                         ` <20190320121132.ysny44krkgw6jlje@sirius.home.kraxel.org>
     [not found]                           ` <CAAFQd5BmAfYzF0JprqWjpkmk-_PGAGXzy7HOa-QJJBxfqigVkg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                             ` <20190401161940.c32mxs7locfzlp6z@sirius.home.kraxel.org>
2019-04-16  5:29                               ` passing FDs across domains Tomasz Figa
2019-04-17  9:30                                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2019-04-17 10:12                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2019-04-18  6:56                                     ` Tomasz Figa
2019-04-18  7:07                                       ` Lepton Wu

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