From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
David Kaplan <david.kaplan@amd.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
Tao Zhang <tao1.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] x86/bhi: Add BHB clearing for CPUs with larger branch history
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 12:04:50 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <40dd7445-a94d-4b90-8a8a-56c15386866a@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251027-vmscape-bhb-v3-1-5793c2534e93@linux.intel.com>
On 10/27/25 16:43, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> Add a version of clear_bhb_loop() that works on CPUs with larger branch
> history table such as Alder Lake and newer. This could serve as a cheaper
> alternative to IBPB mitigation for VMSCAPE.
This is missing a bit of background about clear_bhb_loop(). What does it
mitigate? This is also a better place to talk about why this loop exists
if it doesn't work on newer CPUs.
In other words, please mention BHI_DIS_S here.
> clear_bhb_loop() and the new clear_bhb_long_loop() only differ in the loop
> counter. Convert the asm implementation of clear_bhb_loop() into a macro
> that is used by both the variants, passing counter as an argument.
I find these a lot easier to review if you separate out the refactoring
from the new work. I know it's not a lot of code, but refactor first,
then add he new function in a separate patch.
> +/*
> + * A longer version of clear_bhb_loop to ensure that the BHB is cleared on CPUs
"clear_bhb_loop()", please.
> + * with larger branch history tables (i.e. Alder Lake and newer). BHI_DIS_S
> + * protects the kernel, but to mitigate the guest influence on the host
> + * userspace either IBPB or this sequence should be used. See VMSCAPE bug.
> + */
> +SYM_FUNC_START(clear_bhb_long_loop)
> + __CLEAR_BHB_LOOP 12, 7
> +SYM_FUNC_END(clear_bhb_long_loop)
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(clear_bhb_long_loop)
> +STACK_FRAME_NON_STANDARD(clear_bhb_long_loop)
All the pieces are out there, but I feel like we need this in one place,
somewhere:
BHI_DIS_S: Mitigates user=>kernel attacks on new CPUs. Faster than the
long loop.
Long Loop: Mitigates guest=>host userspace attacks on new CPUs. Would
also work for user=>kernel, but BHI_DIS_S is faster.
Short Loop: The only choice on older CPUs. Used for both user=>kernel
and guest=>host userspace mitigation.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-03 20:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-27 23:43 [PATCH v3 0/3] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] x86/bhi: Add BHB clearing for CPUs with larger branch history Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:04 ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2025-11-03 22:45 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] x86/vmscape: Replace IBPB with branch history clear on exit to userspace Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 22:47 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30 0:08 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:31 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-06 23:40 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-19 10:33 ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-19 18:26 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] x86/vmscape: Remove LFENCE from BHB clearing long loop Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:45 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-04 22:01 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-04 22:35 ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-04 23:36 ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Dave Hansen
2025-11-03 23:03 ` Pawan Gupta
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