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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>,
	David Kaplan <david.kaplan@amd.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Asit Mallick <asit.k.mallick@intel.com>,
	Tao Zhang <tao1.zhang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/3] x86/bhi: Add BHB clearing for CPUs with larger branch history
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2025 12:04:50 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <40dd7445-a94d-4b90-8a8a-56c15386866a@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251027-vmscape-bhb-v3-1-5793c2534e93@linux.intel.com>

On 10/27/25 16:43, Pawan Gupta wrote:
> Add a version of clear_bhb_loop() that works on CPUs with larger branch
> history table such as Alder Lake and newer. This could serve as a cheaper
> alternative to IBPB mitigation for VMSCAPE.

This is missing a bit of background about clear_bhb_loop(). What does it
mitigate? This is also a better place to talk about why this loop exists
if it doesn't work on newer CPUs.

In other words, please mention BHI_DIS_S here.

> clear_bhb_loop() and the new clear_bhb_long_loop() only differ in the loop
> counter. Convert the asm implementation of clear_bhb_loop() into a macro
> that is used by both the variants, passing counter as an argument.

I find these a lot easier to review if you separate out the refactoring
from the new work. I know it's not a lot of code, but refactor first,
then add he new function in a separate patch.

> +/*
> + * A longer version of clear_bhb_loop to ensure that the BHB is cleared on CPUs

"clear_bhb_loop()", please.

> + * with larger branch history tables (i.e. Alder Lake and newer). BHI_DIS_S
> + * protects the kernel, but to mitigate the guest influence on the host
> + * userspace either IBPB or this sequence should be used. See VMSCAPE bug.
> + */
> +SYM_FUNC_START(clear_bhb_long_loop)
> +	__CLEAR_BHB_LOOP 12, 7
> +SYM_FUNC_END(clear_bhb_long_loop)
> +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(clear_bhb_long_loop)
> +STACK_FRAME_NON_STANDARD(clear_bhb_long_loop)

All the pieces are out there, but I feel like we need this in one place,
somewhere:

BHI_DIS_S:  Mitigates user=>kernel attacks on new CPUs. Faster than the
            long loop.
Long Loop:  Mitigates guest=>host userspace attacks on new CPUs. Would
	    also work for user=>kernel, but BHI_DIS_S is faster.
Short Loop: The only choice on older CPUs. Used for both user=>kernel
	    and guest=>host userspace mitigation.



  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-03 20:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-27 23:43 [PATCH v3 0/3] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] x86/bhi: Add BHB clearing for CPUs with larger branch history Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:04   ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2025-11-03 22:45     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] x86/vmscape: Replace IBPB with branch history clear on exit to userspace Pawan Gupta
2025-10-29 22:47   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-10-30  0:08     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:31   ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-06 23:40     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-19 10:33       ` Nikolay Borisov
2025-11-19 18:26         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-10-27 23:43 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] x86/vmscape: Remove LFENCE from BHB clearing long loop Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:45   ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-04 22:01     ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-04 22:35       ` Dave Hansen
2025-11-04 23:36         ` Pawan Gupta
2025-11-03 20:07 ` [PATCH v3 0/3] VMSCAPE optimization for BHI variant Dave Hansen
2025-11-03 23:03   ` Pawan Gupta

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