From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Paravirt KVM capabilities
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:03:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <45A4C7ED.8090003@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070110105202.GA13412-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> * Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>
>> If you have a CONFIG_PARAVIRT guest, I believe it will always be
>> faster to run it without hardware assisted virtualization:
>>
>> - you cannot eliminate vmexits due to host interrupts
>> - a hypercall will (probably) keep being more expensive than a syscall;
>> it simply has a lot more work to do
>> - cr3 switches for CONFIG_PARAVIRT syscalls (which are necessary on
>> x86_64) will probably become very cheap with tagged tlbs
>>
>
> but irq overhead is nothing in importance compared to basic syscall
> overhead. KVM/HVM already runs guest kernel syscalls at native speed.
> KVM/LL (or Xen) has to switch cr3s to enter guest kernel context, and
> has to switch it back to get back to guest user context. It might be
> pretty fast with tagged TLBs, but not zero-cost.
>
For i386 Xen does not switch cr3 IIRC. Perhaps even not for x86_64 if
it can use the segment limits which AMD re-added (I think it does?)
I think for i386 Xen does not go through the hypervisor at all: it hacks
int 0x80 to trap directly to ring 1. So there's still the overhead of
using int rather than sysenter, but not much more. I don't know how the
(many syscalls) x (smaller overhead) vs (fewer interrupts) x (greater
overhead) stack up.
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2007-01-09 14:19 Paravirt KVM capabilities Hugo Mills
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2007-01-09 14:27 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <45A3A642.1030604-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-09 23:20 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1168384852.19646.161.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 9:47 ` Ingo Molnar
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2007-01-10 10:09 ` Ulrich Drepper
[not found] ` <45A4BB74.9010102-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:18 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070110101839.GA6444-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:43 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <45A4C345.5050404-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 10:52 ` Ingo Molnar
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2007-01-10 11:03 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
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2007-01-10 11:14 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070110111442.GA16867-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:42 ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-10 18:00 ` Ulrich Drepper
[not found] ` <45A529DB.4030009-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:12 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <45A52C8B.70608-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:27 ` Ulrich Drepper
[not found] ` <45A53005.30300-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 18:35 ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-10 17:00 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <45A51BA2.9090005-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 17:23 ` Avi Kivity
2007-01-11 0:42 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1168476120.19646.209.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11 0:49 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070111004957.GA3279-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11 2:39 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1168483188.19646.241.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11 2:51 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070111025130.GB21368-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11 3:21 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1168485696.19646.250.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-11 9:38 ` Ingo Molnar
2007-01-10 10:46 ` Rusty Russell
[not found] ` <1168425985.19646.205.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-01-10 11:00 ` sean-cz32UWRuVxBIf6P1QZMOBw
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