* Virtualized hardware and PCI
@ 2007-02-16 16:59 Ronald Lew
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From: Ronald Lew @ 2007-02-16 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f
Can Guest OS access abnormal PCI cards such as a fax card or a card designed
for analog phones (like Digium cards)? Can the guest OS gain full access to
the PCI card without going through the virtualization?
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* Re: Virtualized hardware and PCI [not found] ` <BAY121-F3C2AA87DC35CF1DD93FA7F4950-MsuGFMq8XAE@public.gmane.org> @ 2007-02-18 9:47 ` Avi Kivity [not found] ` <45D8209B.8040004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Avi Kivity @ 2007-02-18 9:47 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ronald Lew; +Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f Ronald Lew wrote: > Can Guest OS access abnormal PCI cards such as a fax card or a card designed > for analog phones (like Digium cards)? Can the guest OS gain full access to > the PCI card without going through the virtualization? > > At present this is not supported. On current hardware it could be made to work, but only with cards which don't do dma. -- Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* Re: Virtualized hardware and PCI [not found] ` <45D8209B.8040004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> @ 2007-02-18 9:49 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda [not found] ` <20070218094944.GD2363-WD1JZD8MxeCTrf4lBMg6DdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Muli Ben-Yehuda @ 2007-02-18 9:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Avi Kivity; +Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Ronald Lew On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:47:07AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > Ronald Lew wrote: > > Can Guest OS access abnormal PCI cards such as a fax card or a card designed > > for analog phones (like Digium cards)? Can the guest OS gain full access to > > the PCI card without going through the virtualization? > > At present this is not supported. On current hardware it could be made > to work, but only with cards which don't do dma. How would you handle device interrupts? take them in the host and then inject to the guest through the qemu device emulation? Cheers, Muli ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* Re: Virtualized hardware and PCI [not found] ` <20070218094944.GD2363-WD1JZD8MxeCTrf4lBMg6DdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org> @ 2007-02-18 9:54 ` Avi Kivity 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Avi Kivity @ 2007-02-18 9:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Muli Ben-Yehuda; +Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f, Ronald Lew Muli Ben-Yehuda wrote: > On Sun, Feb 18, 2007 at 11:47:07AM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote: > >> Ronald Lew wrote: >> >>> Can Guest OS access abnormal PCI cards such as a fax card or a card designed >>> for analog phones (like Digium cards)? Can the guest OS gain full access to >>> the PCI card without going through the virtualization? >>> >> At present this is not supported. On current hardware it could be made >> to work, but only with cards which don't do dma. >> > > How would you handle device interrupts? take them in the host and then > inject to the guest through the qemu device emulation? > > Yes. Though I now see a problem: masking pci interrupts is not standardized, so the host handler cannot shut up the interrupt by itself, and of course it cannot rely on the guest doing so. So without some knowledge of the device, all other pci devices that share the same interrupt line are at risk. -- Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT & business topics through brief surveys-and earn cash http://www.techsay.com/default.php?page=join.php&p=sourceforge&CID=DEVDEV ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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2007-02-18 9:49 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
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