From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: KVM in-kernel APIC update
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:47:24 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46149B7C.5020004@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070404201205.GC6070-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Ingo Molnar wrote:
> we should move all the PICs into KVM proper - and that includes the
> i8259A PIC too. Qemu-space drivers are then wired to pins on these PICs,
> but nothing in Qemu does vector generation or vector prioritization -
> that task is purely up to KVM. There are mixed i8259A+lapic models
> possible too and the simplest model is to have all vector handling in
> KVM.
>
> any 'cut' of the interface to allow both qemu and KVM generate vectors
> is unnecessary (and harmful) complexity. The interface cut should be at
> the 'pin' level, with Qemu raising a signal on a pin and lowering a
> signal on a pin, but otherwise not dealing with IRQ routing and IRQ
> vectors.
>
Following is my view of the possible cuts:
- everything in userspace: worst performance, but needed for comaptibility
- tpr in kernel: minimal effort, bad badly defined interface
- lapic in kernel: well defined (all on-chip stuff in kernel, off-chip
in userspace), fixes main Windows problems, interrupts still need
userspace. Interface is the processor's LINT pins and APIC bus.
- *pic in kernel: most effort, easiest irq synchronization. Interface
is pic/ioapic pin level, plus a topology description that userspace uses
to tell the hardware how the pins are connected (logically required, but
practically not).
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2007-04-03 22:31 KVM in-kernel APIC update Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <46128F80.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 7:40 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46135686.4090905-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:23 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <46138A98.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:49 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4613D736.1080207-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 17:10 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4613959F.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 17:43 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4613E3CB.6000904-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 17:56 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4613A090.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 20:20 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070404202046.GD6070-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 6:48 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-04 22:00 ` Dor Laor
2007-04-04 20:12 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070404201205.GC6070-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:55 ` Dor Laor
2007-04-05 6:47 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
[not found] ` <46149B7C.5020004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 7:37 ` Dor Laor
2007-04-05 10:39 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070405103933.GA8936-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 10:50 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070405105042.GA11779-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 11:29 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-05 14:37 ` Dong, Eddie
2007-04-04 20:32 ` Ingo Molnar
[not found] ` <20070404203235.GA11369-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:22 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4613D0CE.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-04-05 7:11 ` Avi Kivity
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