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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: KVM in-kernel APIC update
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:47:24 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46149B7C.5020004@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070404201205.GC6070-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>

Ingo Molnar wrote:
> we should move all the PICs into KVM proper - and that includes the 
> i8259A PIC too. Qemu-space drivers are then wired to pins on these PICs, 
> but nothing in Qemu does vector generation or vector prioritization - 
> that task is purely up to KVM. There are mixed i8259A+lapic models 
> possible too and the simplest model is to have all vector handling in 
> KVM.
>
> any 'cut' of the interface to allow both qemu and KVM generate vectors 
> is unnecessary (and harmful) complexity. The interface cut should be at 
> the 'pin' level, with Qemu raising a signal on a pin and lowering a 
> signal on a pin, but otherwise not dealing with IRQ routing and IRQ 
> vectors.
>   

Following is my view of the possible cuts:

- everything in userspace: worst performance, but needed for comaptibility

- tpr in kernel: minimal effort, bad badly defined interface

- lapic in kernel: well defined (all on-chip stuff in kernel, off-chip 
in userspace), fixes main Windows problems, interrupts still need 
userspace.  Interface is the processor's LINT pins and APIC bus.

- *pic in kernel: most effort, easiest irq synchronization.  Interface 
is pic/ioapic pin level, plus a topology description that userspace uses 
to tell the hardware how the pins are connected (logically required, but 
practically not).

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-05  6:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-03 22:31 KVM in-kernel APIC update Gregory Haskins
     [not found] ` <46128F80.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04  7:40   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <46135686.4090905-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:23       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]         ` <46138A98.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 16:49           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <4613D736.1080207-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 17:10               ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                 ` <4613959F.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 17:43                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <4613E3CB.6000904-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 17:56                       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]                         ` <4613A090.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 20:20                           ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                             ` <20070404202046.GD6070-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05  6:48                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-04 22:00                   ` Dor Laor
2007-04-04 20:12       ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]         ` <20070404201205.GC6070-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:55           ` Dor Laor
2007-04-05  6:47           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]             ` <46149B7C.5020004-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05  7:37               ` Dor Laor
2007-04-05 10:39               ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                 ` <20070405103933.GA8936-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 10:50                   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]                     ` <20070405105042.GA11779-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-05 11:29                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-05 14:37           ` Dong, Eddie
2007-04-04 20:32   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]     ` <20070404203235.GA11369-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:22       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]         ` <4613D0CE.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-04 21:40           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-04-05  7:11           ` Avi Kivity

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