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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
To: Tomasz Chmielewski <mangoo-Nem3ZqsbT/g@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: paravirtual drivers?
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:04:21 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <461E3C65.5080207@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <461DFE2E.3020805-Nem3ZqsbT/g@public.gmane.org>

Tomasz Chmielewski wrote:
> As I understand, fully virtualized KVM guests (on Intel VT or AMD-V) can 
> perform with near native speeds only when it comes to the CPU - because 
> the things like network or block device are basically emulated.
>
>
> Among many changes, KVM in 2.6.21 has "Initial paravirtualization 
> support, which has much faster performance", and is based on KVM-15.
>
>
> At least two PV drivers are needed:
> - network
> - block device
>   

I don't believe a PV block driver is actually necessary.  Disk devices 
are actually quite slow (unless you have a large array).  With a few 
small changes (bump MMU cache up to 1024 and actually enable the aio 
subsystem), SCSI emulation does as well as Xen's PV block driver (about 
210 mb/sec whereas native is around 250 mb/sec).  There's a lot of room 
to optimize the SCSI emulation too since there are a number of copies in 
that path.

The SCSI emulation is a lot like what one would design in a PV driver.  
It supports multiple outstanding requests and doesn't require a whole 
lot of exits to submit a request (it uses scripts).

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>
> What is the state of these PV drivers now? Is it usable on Linux now?
>
> Are Windows PV drivers planned, too? If yes, who is going to take the 
> lead here (Qumranet, community, not decided yet etc.?).
>
>
>
>   


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-04-12 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-12  9:38 paravirtual drivers? Tomasz Chmielewski
     [not found] ` <461DFE2E.3020805-Nem3ZqsbT/g@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12  9:49   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <461E008F.8030701-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 10:00       ` Tomasz Chmielewski
     [not found]         ` <461E034F.9050608-Nem3ZqsbT/g@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 10:47           ` Rami Tamir
2007-04-12 11:30           ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-12  9:58   ` Dor Laor
     [not found]     ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B4A9CF0-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 12:31       ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]         ` <1176381086.3844.4.camel-NIQFrBLA1CpScpXdPBN83iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 12:40           ` Dor Laor
     [not found]             ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B4A9D60-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 14:57               ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                 ` <1176389824.3417.0.camel-NIQFrBLA1CpScpXdPBN83iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 15:05                   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                     ` <461E4AAF.8050606-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 16:16                       ` Arjan van de Ven
     [not found]                         ` <1176394563.3417.7.camel-NIQFrBLA1CpScpXdPBN83iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 17:42                           ` Anthony Liguori
2007-04-12 15:28                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-12 14:04   ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
     [not found]     ` <461E3C65.5080207-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 15:27       ` Tomasz Chmielewski
     [not found]         ` <461FA164.1090703-Nem3ZqsbT/g@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 15:38           ` Anthony Liguori

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