From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Arjan van de Ven <arjan-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: paravirtual drivers?
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:42:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <461E6F72.2040805@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1176394563.3417.7.camel-NIQFrBLA1CpScpXdPBN83iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:05 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> Why not drive the backend from userspace?
>>
>
> (nothing in the concept requires it to be in the kernel, it just makes
> things a lot easier)
>
> Because I think the trend forward is to reduce the userspace dependency
> of kvm, not increase it.
There's no increase in dependency since block IO is already done in
userspace. Besides, I think the general Linux trend of moving things to
userspace when there's no compelling reason to have them in kernel space
trumps all other trends ;-)
> And because you add context switches etc etc
>
There's no context switch just a privilege transition. Granted,
privilege transitions aren't free but they're aren't that much compared
to the cost of processing an IO request.
>> Are you using a ring queue to
>> transmit bio's from the guest to the host?
>>
>
> sort of; it's not quite a real ring (I'm using the block layer tagged
> queueing which is more efficient than a ring actually)
>
I'm not sure I understand. I guess I can just read the code. What I
was wondering was whether you put the bio's into a shared ring queue or
whether you issued a hypercall per bio.
>> What are you using for
>> discovery (I assume PCI)?
>>
>
> I just added a hypercall to enumerate. Adding a dummy PCI is probably
> needed for OS installers to auto-load the drivers.
>
Ah, okay.
>> Could you post a copy of your driver on the list? I think it would be
>> good to discuss.
>>
>
> I'll dig it up
>
Excellent. Thank you!
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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2007-04-12 9:38 paravirtual drivers? Tomasz Chmielewski
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2007-04-12 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <461E008F.8030701-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 10:00 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
[not found] ` <461E034F.9050608-Nem3ZqsbT/g@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 10:47 ` Rami Tamir
2007-04-12 11:30 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-12 9:58 ` Dor Laor
[not found] ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B4A9CF0-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 12:31 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <1176381086.3844.4.camel-NIQFrBLA1CpScpXdPBN83iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 12:40 ` Dor Laor
[not found] ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160B4A9D60-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 14:57 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <1176389824.3417.0.camel-NIQFrBLA1CpScpXdPBN83iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 15:05 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <461E4AAF.8050606-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 16:16 ` Arjan van de Ven
[not found] ` <1176394563.3417.7.camel-NIQFrBLA1CpScpXdPBN83iCwEArCW2h5@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-12 17:42 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2007-04-12 15:28 ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-12 14:04 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <461E3C65.5080207-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 15:27 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
[not found] ` <461FA164.1090703-Nem3ZqsbT/g@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-13 15:38 ` Anthony Liguori
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