From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Gregory Haskins <ghaskins-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
Davide Libenzi <davidel-AhlLAIvw+VEjIGhXcJzhZg@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/10] KVM: Adds ability to signal userspace using a file-descriptor
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 15:22:32 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46485488.2010608@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46481A61.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Gregory Haskins wrote:
>>
>> Is having a read() (or a write()) actually necessary?
>>
>
> Based on what I know: yes. It could be a case of ignorance, however ;)
>
> Heres why I think its necessary: You need poll to simply tell you when something is pending. You can't clear the pending status in poll because you cannot predict the internal access pattern (e.g. I assume it could be polled multiple times by the kernel without returning immediately to userspace). Therefore, you need a second method to actually clear the pending "signal", which I use the read() method for. I can be convinced otherwise, but that was my original thinking.
>
I think you are right, but am cc'ing an expert. Davide, we're using an
fd to signal something to userspace, but have nothing to actually read()
or write(). Is a read() or write() avoidable?
>
>>> +
>>> + if (indirect_sig && waitqueue_active(&vcpu- >irq.wq))
>>> + wake_up(&vcpu- >irq.wq);
>>> }
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Did you check that we can actually deliver signals with this? I think a
>> fasync_struct or something like that is necessary, but not sure.
>>
>
> Actually, my signals *didn't* seem to be working, but they werent working with "send_sig()" either so I just assumed I had a userspace coding problem. Based on what I read, it seemed like what I did should work if you do a fcntl(F_SETSIG), etc. But again, it could be ignorance. I am not familiar with fasync_struct. If you have any pointers, please forward.
>
>
fs/pipe.c. hairy stuff.
>> Another implementation option (which I've only thought of now, sorry) is
>> to have an ioctl which returns a real eventfd, reducing some code
>> duplication.
>>
>
> So based on this, I assume eventfd must be in the kernel already? Cool.
It is in 2.6.22-rc1. As is the anonymous inodes source which can be used
to retire kvmfs (which will probably break the record for shortest-lived
filesystem ever).
> Even if its not, I like this idea much better than what I did. There was still an unresolved problem regarding how I was going to expose the signaling mechanism to QEMU without giving away the vcpu_fd from the kvmctl library that this solves nicely.
>
> With this methodology, I can simply provide a function like "kvm_vcpu_get_eventfd()" in the library, and return the eventfd directly to the QEMU process. Then we dont have to worry about layering violations. Nice!
>
I hadn't though of it. Looks like a win from all directions.
It means we need to package eventfd for the external module, but that's
easily done.
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2007-05-10 12:46 [PATCH 00/10] in-kernel APIC v3 (kernel side) Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070510123831.10200.4769.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-10 12:46 ` [PATCH 01/10] KVM: Adds support for in-kernel mmio handlers Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:46 ` [PATCH 02/10] KVM: VMX - fix interrupt checking on light-exit Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:46 ` [PATCH 03/10] KVM: Add irqdevice object Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 04/10] KVM: Adds ability to preempt an executing VCPU Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 05/10] KVM: Adds ability to signal userspace using a file-descriptor Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070510124706.10200.68571.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13 13:00 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46470BF7.5080108-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:15 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <46481A61.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:22 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
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2007-05-14 14:00 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <46483320.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 14:42 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4648756D.5040001-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:18 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-05-14 16:52 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705140948150.19682-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:12 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <4648986B.9090403-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:15 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705141013310.19682-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 17:23 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46489B12.8030807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 19:01 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <464879A3.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 19:12 ` Davide Libenzi
[not found] ` <Pine.LNX.4.64.0705141207070.19682-GPJ85BhbkB8RepQJljzAVbITYcZ0+W3JAL8bYrjMMd8@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 20:18 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <46488BCD.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 21:32 ` Davide Libenzi
2007-05-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 06/10] KVM: Add support for in-kernel LAPIC model Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 07/10] KVM: Adds support for real NMI injection on VMX processors Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 08/10] KVM: Adds basic plumbing to support TPR shadow features Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 09/10] KVM: Add statistics from interrupt subsystem Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <20070510124726.10200.53053.stgit-sLgBBP33vUGnsjUZhwzVf9HuzzzSOjJt@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 11:17 ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-10 12:47 ` [PATCH 10/10] KVM: Adds support for TPR shadowing under VMX processors Gregory Haskins
2007-05-10 13:07 ` [PATCH 00/10] in-kernel APIC v3 (kernel side) Dor Laor
[not found] ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160BBA66AF-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-10 13:20 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4642E39D.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13 8:00 ` Dor Laor
[not found] ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160BC745D3-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13 13:59 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <4646E16D.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-13 14:06 ` Dor Laor
[not found] ` <64F9B87B6B770947A9F8391472E032160BC74642-yEcIvxbTEBqsx+V+t5oei8rau4O3wl8o3fe8/T/H7NteoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:37 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <46481FC0.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 13:04 ` Dor Laor
2007-05-13 12:38 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <464706BF.6000808-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 11:59 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <464816AB.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:05 ` Dor Laor
2007-05-14 12:14 ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-10 13:32 ` Gregory Haskins
2007-05-13 13:10 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46470E58.2040208-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:23 ` Gregory Haskins
[not found] ` <46481C4B.BA47.005A.0-Et1tbQHTxzrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 12:24 ` Avi Kivity
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