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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: carsteno-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Cc: "kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org"
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	Christian Borntraeger
	<cborntra-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	mschwid2-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/PFC 0/2] s390 host support
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 17:50:54 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4648774E.2060304@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46486F89.3080609-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Carsten Otte wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>> If the eventfd patchset is merged, then file descriptors will become 
>> the standard Linux handle type, and poll (or rather, epoll) will 
>> become the standard way of waiting for something to happen.  But of 
>> course if you come up with something better we'll use that.
> Triggered by this discussion, I have spent quite some time thinking 
> about signaling, idle cpus, interrupts, signal processor (read: IPI) 
> and such lately. It has become clear to me, that sleeping in userspace 
> has been a bad design point I've made. The way kvm deals with this 
> (idle cpu thread sleeps interruptible in kernel) is clearly preferable.

kvm doesn't do this directly.  A hlt instruction (which is is used on 
x86 to signal an idle cpu) is trapped and echoed to userspace, which 
then sleeps using select(2).

We thought of having hlt sleep in the kernel, but that meant that we 
would need to specify the exit conditions from sleep (signals, fd 
readiness, aio readiness).

(I think you're comparing to your pthread way of sleeping and waking, 
just making sure we're all on the same page here)



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-14 14:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-27 13:40 [PATCH/PFC 0/2] s390 host support Carsten Otte
     [not found] ` <1177681224.5770.20.camel-WIxn4w2hgUz3YA32ykw5MLlKpX0K8NHHQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-27 15:14   ` Carsten Otte
2007-04-28  6:27   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <4632E94C.20904-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-28  8:45       ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]         ` <4633099D.3020709-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29  9:13           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <463461B1.7060406-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29 10:24               ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                 ` <4634726F.10705-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29 10:48                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <463477EE.3000406-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29 11:15                       ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                         ` <46347E6D.90409-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29 11:49                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                             ` <46348661.6000909-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29 14:27                               ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                 ` <4634AB6C.4020901-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29 15:06                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-30 14:48                               ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                 ` <463601A3.3070206-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-30 14:56                                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                                     ` <463603B6.3010105-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 14:17                                       ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                         ` <46486F89.3080609-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 14:50                                           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                                             ` <4648774E.2060304-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 15:26                                               ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                                 ` <46487FA5.4090905-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 15:29                                                   ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                                                     ` <46488047.8090404-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-14 15:55                                                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-14 15:53                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-29 12:13                       ` Heiko Carstens
     [not found]                         ` <20070429121351.GA8254-5VkHqLvV2o3MbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29 12:27                           ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-29  8:11       ` Heiko Carstens
     [not found]         ` <20070429081157.GC8332-5VkHqLvV2o3MbYB6QlFGEg@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-29  8:45           ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-30 18:58             ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]               ` <pan.2007.04.30.18.58.56.432063-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-01  6:43                 ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-01 14:53                   ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]                     ` <pan.2007.05.01.14.53.20.257696-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-01 14:57                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-04-27 16:19 ` Hollis Blanchard
     [not found]   ` <pan.2007.04.27.16.18.10.889473-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-27 19:58     ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]       ` <463255F3.2000500-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-04-27 22:34         ` Dong, Eddie
2007-04-29  8:09     ` Heiko Carstens

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