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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: State of current pv_ops backend for KVM?
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 17:00:18 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <465C31F2.8080007@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <465C2F75.3080603-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>

Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>> Howdy,
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what the state of a pv_ops backend for KVM is?  I 
>>> know Ingo has an implementation that implements CR3 caching but I 
>>> don't see any branches in Avi's git tree.
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should try for a simple pv_ops backend for 2.6.23 seeing 
>>> as how the host infrastructure is there?  I'd be willing to do some 
>>> leg work here... 
>>
>> I think we should aim for a full direct paging implementation, where 
>> the cr3 cache is just the cherry on top that makes context switches 
>> proceed at native speed.  Jun has a paper on it for OLS and I hope 
>> patches too.
>
> That's a bit more ambitious than I was thinking.  I would be very 
> happy with a pv timer, interrupt controller, and some basic CPU 
> optimizations.  I'm still not convinced the perf benefits of direct 
> paging justify the annoyances that come with it (guests being aware of 
> pfns).  

I thought that with paravirt_ops, all the awareness is limited to the 
paravirt implementation, and nothing in the core kernel is actually 
aware of host pfns.

pv timer and interrupt controller make a lot of sense, especially if 
steal timer functionality is included.

> This is especially true with NPT/EPT right around the corner.

It depends on the workload.  It was advanced (by Ingo) that NPT/EPT 
increase the tlb miss latency, which is important for steady-state 
workloads, whereas shadow and direct paging do not.  It will be 
interesting to measure this.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-05-29 14:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-29  1:54 State of current pv_ops backend for KVM? Anthony Liguori
     [not found] ` <465B87CE.6030801-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-29  6:11   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]     ` <20070529061128.GA27037-X9Un+BFzKDI@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-29  6:11       ` Ingo Molnar
2007-05-29 11:47   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <465C12C0.9030906-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-29 13:49       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <465C2F75.3080603-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-29 14:00           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]             ` <465C31F2.8080007-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-29 14:19               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                 ` <465C3671.9000404-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-29 14:28                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-05-30  2:35               ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]                 ` <1180492544.30202.72.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-30  5:01                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <465D051F.20706-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-30  6:04                       ` Rusty Russell
2007-05-30  2:24   ` Rusty Russell
     [not found]     ` <1180491861.30202.61.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-30  2:51       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <465CE6AD.7000206-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-30 18:02           ` Zachary Amsden
     [not found]             ` <465DBC39.7090308-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-30 18:20               ` Anthony Liguori

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