From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: eranian-sDzT885Ts8HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: CPUID emulation
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 14:35:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <465EB310.7080402@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070531112906.GC22798-HU54gidqsKnWxDs0y9d3MAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
Stephane Eranian wrote:
>>
>> The main issue is migration (and save/restore). If you migrate to a
>> host with fewer capabilities, applications may fail when they use
>> unavailable instructions that they successfully detected earlier.
>>
>>
> In the case of heterogeneous migration, clearly performance counters
> will not work well, especially for unmodified guests.
Right.
> But I can also
> see problems when migrating from Intel Core to older P4 for instance.
>
>
If the guest cpuid is set to a least common denominator, it should work.
>> Upstream qemu already has a -cpu (or similar) switch for non-x86; we can
>> probably use that.
>>
>>
>
> Probably, but in my particular case, you'd have to be able to specify
> vendor/family/model.
>
>
Right. It will have to be quite elaborate.
>> (there's another possible issue - some future features may require
>> support from the hypervisor - that may conflict with defaulting to to
>> the host feature set. maybe kvm should mask out any unknown features)
>>
>>
>
> The question is how do you identify unknown features which do require
> KVM support?
>
>
Yes. Obviously we don't know anything about future features, so we can
just mask out any feature that is unknown today, and update the mask
when new features are available (whether they require kernel support or
not).
This masking can be performed in user space, so upgrading is not too
hard (or even allow a command-line override).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-05-31 11:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-05-31 8:20 CPUID emulation Stephane Eranian
[not found] ` <20070531082006.GB22798-HU54gidqsKnWxDs0y9d3MAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 8:39 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <465E89A8.9020201-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 11:29 ` Stephane Eranian
[not found] ` <20070531112906.GC22798-HU54gidqsKnWxDs0y9d3MAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 11:35 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
[not found] ` <465EB310.7080402-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 11:44 ` Stephane Eranian
[not found] ` <20070531114447.GF22798-HU54gidqsKnWxDs0y9d3MAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 11:52 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <465EB6E5.7000000-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 11:58 ` Stephane Eranian
[not found] ` <20070531115841.GG22798-HU54gidqsKnWxDs0y9d3MAC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 15:12 ` Troy Benjegerdes
[not found] ` <20070531151244.GC6474-na1kE3HDu0idQnJuSAr7PQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-05-31 15:38 ` ron minnich
2007-05-31 18:30 ` Ulrich Drepper
[not found] ` <465F145F.5040003-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-01 1:12 ` H. Peter Anvin
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