From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
virtualization <virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: Re: More virtio users
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 22:36:06 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <466E14A6.6020400@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1181603983.16428.100.camel__36651.2330751449$1181608748$gmane$org@localhost.localdomain>
Rusty Russell wrote:
> On Mon, 2007-06-11 at 10:16 +0200, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>> Framebuffer is an interesting one. Virtio doesn't assume shared memory,
>>> so naively the fb you would just send outbufs describing changed memory.
>>> This would work, but describing rectangles is better. A helper might be
>>> the right approach here
>> Rectangles work just fine for a framebuffer console. They stop working
>> once you plan to run any graphical stuff such as an X-Server on top of
>> the framebuffer. Only way to get notified about changes is page faults,
>> i.e. 4k granularity on the linear framebuffer memory.
>
> Yes, I discussed this with Ben Herrenschmidt a couple of months ago. It
> would be better to provide a fb ioctl which X could use to describe
> changed rectangles if available. In the virtio case we could hand that
> information through, and other virtualized framebuffers would be able to
> use it similarly.
The X fbdev driver is going to make supporting a new fb ioctl pretty
fun. It currently doesn't even support the existing fb ioctls and has a
strange abstraction layer.
I reckon writing a new X driver from scratch (or based on something like
the vnc X driver) would be easier in the long run.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> Cheers,
> Rusty.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-12 3:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-10 7:33 More virtio users Avi Kivity
2007-06-10 8:06 ` Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-06-10 8:09 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-12 22:07 ` [kvm-devel] [Xen-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-12 23:40 ` [kvm-devel] " Caitlin Bestler
2007-06-12 23:54 ` [kvm-devel] [Xen-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2007-06-13 5:28 ` [kvm-devel] " Muli Ben-Yehuda
2007-06-14 19:41 ` Caitlin Bestler
[not found] ` <1EF1E44200D82B47BD5BA61171E8CE9D04269D6E-Wx+fQJ8T8QJuheSVJXE+poKqz+Jmtwh+qs7JOtOhHmkAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-14 23:39 ` [Xen-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <200706150139.36770.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-15 16:26 ` Caitlin Bestler
2007-06-10 8:13 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-10 8:16 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-10 12:37 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-11 6:41 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-11 7:29 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-11 7:33 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-12 0:31 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-12 6:24 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-12 7:52 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-12 7:56 ` Jens Axboe
2007-06-11 8:16 ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2007-06-11 8:19 ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-11 19:24 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-06-11 23:19 ` Rusty Russell
2007-06-12 0:47 ` [Xen-devel] " Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] ` <1181603983.16428.100.camel__36651.2330751449$1181608748$gmane$org@localhost.localdomain>
2007-06-12 3:36 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2007-06-12 4:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-06-11 13:44 ` Markus Armbruster
2007-06-11 3:04 ` ron minnich
2007-06-12 22:01 ` [kvm-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <200706130001.21431.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-14 16:27 ` [Xen-devel] " Mark Williamson
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