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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
To: Dimitry Golubovsky <golubovsky-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Are root privileges really needed to run kvm?
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 10:10:30 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <467008E6.9030903@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bcba51a0706130801r79a77751m31d46aac630c3e80-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Dimitry Golubovsky wrote:
> Anthony,
>
> On 6/13/07, Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> One thing to consider is that if a userspace process can create KVM
>> guests, they are capable of pinning large quantities of physical
>> memory.  This could be used as a DoS attack so consider VM creation a
>> privileged operation.
>
> No, that's not what is intended. I was asking about possibility to run
> KVM at users privileges after some necessary actions have been
> completed, and tried to compile a list of such actions.
>
> That is,
>
> - adjust RTC (I just added this to the system startup script)

You can also just run guests with -no-rtc.

> - create a tap
> - add tap to the bridge (if bridging is used)/adjust iptables if no
> bridging (another example in qemu wiki)

You may want to look at VDE (http://vde.sf.net).  One of it's purposes 
was to allow non-privileged users to access bridges.

> - open /dev/kvm (as it has been found, group membership is sufficient
> if group can write to /dev/kvm)
>
> After that, process privileges might be dropped to those of the user
> who logged (ssh'd) in. Images of disk volumes and CDs may then be
> assigned proper permissions, so users may be more flexible on what to
> run, and regular Unix filesystem mechanisms will control access.

Yup.

> BTW if qemu_system_x86-64 runs at user privileges, can the memory
> consumed be subject to whatever per-user limits that may be set
> systemwide?

I don't think so although as Avi mentioned, this will be addressed when 
the overcommit patches are merged.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-13 15:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-11 13:19 Are root privileges really needed to run kvm? Dimitry Golubovsky
     [not found] ` <bcba51a0706110619q661628b6lfd6b6968ad893c59-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13  8:30   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <466FAB08.5050902-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 14:28       ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]         ` <466FFF13.8000102-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 14:34           ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-13 15:01           ` Dimitry Golubovsky
     [not found]             ` <bcba51a0706130801r79a77751m31d46aac630c3e80-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 15:08               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <46700887.30009-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 15:26                   ` Dimitry Golubovsky
     [not found]                     ` <bcba51a0706130826r60175d04r3e8a402f2c8f6271-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 15:33                       ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                         ` <46700E4A.50906-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 15:39                           ` Dimitry Golubovsky
     [not found]                             ` <bcba51a0706130839l143bb209pfc4ee664ce20f300-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 15:54                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-13 15:10               ` Anthony Liguori [this message]

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