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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: A testing for KVM
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 12:01:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <467A3E66.4090406@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A01A562AD-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

Dong, Eddie wrote:
> In Xen, we virtualize TSC too to make sure the guest TSC time is
> synchronized with 
> guest PIT time, so guest can see an accurate virtual time. (refer my
> presentation
> doc on Xen September summit 06.) It is good but time to time
> we see bugs due to the complicated time virtualization mechanism. As far
> as I know,
> Vmware doesn't solve this problem either, it depends on guest
> application to sync
> guest time with real time (network or host). 
>
>   

Do you mean that rdtsc is trapped?  Or that you play with TSC_OFFSET so 
that time is smoother?

> We can use PV time of linux, another way is to persuade community to
> give up 
> the cross reference of PIT and TSC to give up picking the lost ticks
> given that 
> today's OS is smart enough and won't disable IRQ for that long time
> before
>  another PIT expires (1-4ms), so those kind of picking up lost ticks is
> quit 
> unnecessary, especially for X86-64 (faster processor).
>
> Another big issue is that guest Linux will eventually fail back to PIT
> time source after
> hundreds of "lost ticks" and thus give up TSC time source. This is OK
> for normal application
> but dead set for database server where gettimeofday is frequently used.
> We saw
>  30-40% performance degradation due to this only. (gettimeofday  will
> read port 40
>  multiple times which is extremely slow under virtualization).
>
> I will ask Jun, Avi to bring this issue to virtualization mini summit to
> persuade 
> communitty to do some changes in guest timer IRQ handler.
>   

For newer kernels, we can supply a paravirt clocksource (as in Anthony's 
patchset) which will  remove the need for changing the bare hardware 
time code.

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-06-21  9:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-06-13  8:37 A testing for KVM Zhao, Yunfeng
     [not found] ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77AA3EEA0-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13  8:48   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <466FAF56.4070802-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 10:16       ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]         ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A0198452F-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 10:58           ` Avi Kivity
2007-06-13 11:02       ` Gregory Haskins
     [not found]         ` <1181732578.26394.9.camel-5CR4LY5GPkvLDviKLk5550HKjMygAv58XqFh9Ls21Oc@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-13 11:41           ` Dor Laor
2007-06-21  3:23           ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]             ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A01A562AD-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-21  9:01               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                 ` <467A3E66.4090406-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-21  9:09                   ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                     ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A01A56502-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-21  9:28                       ` Avi Kivity
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-06-21  5:12 Dong, Eddie
2007-06-21 11:06 Gregory Haskins
     [not found] ` <467A23890200005A000262B7-Igcdv/6uVdMHoYOw/+koYqIwWpluYiW7@public.gmane.org>
2007-06-21 12:41   ` Dong, Eddie
2007-06-21 12:50 Gregory Haskins

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