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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Dong, Eddie" <eddie.dong-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: Use host CPUID processor info
Date: Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:12:12 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4690FECC.5070307@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A01B8F4B3-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>

Dong, Eddie wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> One of the uses of virtualization is to abstract the underlying
>> hardware, so that a VM image can run on any platform (live
>> migration is
>> an example of this use case).  For that we must not let any detail of
>> the hardware be visible. 
>>     
>
> I doutb about the live migration cross different architecture. A VM
> using AMD 3DNow can't be migrated to Intel Box. Even within Intel
> processores, A VM using SSE2 can't be migrated to a platform w/o SSE2
> support.
>
> Only if the VM is using the minimal instruction set, minimal features
> may be able to live migrate to other platforms. If this is the purpose,
> probably we can use an ancient processor model for the VM to achieve
> best migration capability in case hybrid processor is adopted. In that
> way we meet both requirement: live migration and app doesn't know it is
> a VM.
>   

It doesn't have to be too ancient.  All virtualization capable 
processors support at least sse2 (and maybe sse3 too).

> Further more, there needs a capibility check for live migration to see
> if it can be migrated to a new platform. If we use host processor model,
> Qemu can simply check both new processor model and required one to see
> if migration can be done, if we use virtual processor model, say qemu
> processor, we have trouble: A vm using qemu processor compiled with SSE2
> can't be migrated to a new platform w/o SSE2 though the capability check
> at migration decision make time says OK (both are qemu processoe). 

No, you only need to check that the host processor is a superset of the 
virtualized processor.

A management solution can also compute a cpuid that is common to all 
machines in the farm and tell qemu to use that via the command line.


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      parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-08 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-07  6:47 Use host CPUID processor info Dong, Eddie
     [not found] ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A01B8F3FB-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-08  8:09   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]     ` <46909BC5.1040505-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-08 13:45       ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]         ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A01B8F4A3-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-08 13:49           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <4690EB75.1030702-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-08 14:07               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A01B8F4B3-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-08 15:12                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]

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