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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
To: David Windsor <dwindsor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	David Windsor <dwindsor-5TQdPaFcblfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Joshua Brindle <jbrindle-5TQdPaFcblfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	selinux <selinux-+05T5uksL2qpZYMLLGbcSA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/01]qemu VM entrypoints
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 10:54:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46A22C37.5030004@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C2C7258F.36C9%dwindsor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

David Windsor wrote:
> On 7/21/07 2:21 AM, "Avi Kivity" <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>   
>> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>>     
>>> James Morris wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> On Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> It could be - if your put the policy at the control API layer instead of
>>>>> in QEMU itself.
>>>>>     
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Then you can bypass MAC security by invoking qemu directly.
>>>>   
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> You can bypass MAC security by writing your own binary that uses the KVM
>>> kernel interfaces.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>> I guess modifying qemu makes sense if the modification gives you *more*
>> permissions.
>>
>> i.e. you start out just with the ability to access the disk image, and
>> then you transition to a new domain that allows you to access some network.
>>
>>
>> Is that what is intended here?
>>     
>
> The intent here is to provide some mechanism for a policy-driven transition
> to occur when loading a virtual disk.  So, an administrator would write
> policy for say, a topsecret_vm_t domain, in which the top secret VM can run.
> All access requests from this VM would have a source type of topsecret_vm_t
> on the host machine.  The virtual disk, labeled perhaps as topsecret_disk_t,
> would need to be authorized in policy to be an entrypoint into the
> topsecret_vm_t domain.  This patch proposes a mechanism that allows us to
> provide policy driven controls both over which files can be used as a disk
> image, and to which domain a qemu process will transition after loading the
> disk image.  
>   

Can you already write an selinux policy that changes the label of a 
process when it open()s a different file?

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

> Originally, I thought qemu was the proper place for this type of an
> enforcement hook, but libvirt may be more appropriate because qemu could be
> launched with a different security context if loading a virtual disk, rather
> than having qemu set up the security context of the VM.  Thoughts?
>
>
>
>   


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-07-21 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-20 19:32 [RFC][PATCH 00/01]qemu VM entrypoints David Windsor
     [not found] ` <C2C68600.366D%dwindsor-5TQdPaFcblfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-20 20:03   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <46A1151F.7020502-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-20 21:55       ` David Windsor
2007-07-20 22:19         ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2007-07-20 20:11   ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]     ` <20070720201101.GC12218-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-20 20:30       ` James Morris
2007-07-20 20:38         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2007-07-20 20:46         ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]           ` <46A11F1A.2080004-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-20 22:42             ` James Morris
2007-07-20 22:53               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                 ` <46A13CDB.7020900-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-20 23:33                   ` James Morris
2007-07-21  2:48               ` David Windsor
2007-07-21  6:21             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]               ` <46A1A5E9.7000807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-21  6:53                 ` David Windsor
     [not found]                   ` <C2C7258F.36C9%dwindsor-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-21 15:54                     ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
     [not found]                       ` <46A22C37.5030004-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-21 17:55                         ` James Morris
2007-07-21 19:01                           ` Joshua Brindle
     [not found]                             ` <6FE441CD9F0C0C479F2D88F959B01588DE1B1E-Lp/cVzEoVybUo1n7N8X6UhN0Am9MfdqnVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-22 19:07                               ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]                                 ` <46A3AB09.3090800-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-22 20:22                                   ` David Windsor
2007-07-22 17:39                         ` David Windsor
2007-07-20 21:57         ` David Windsor
     [not found]           ` <25a1d91b0707201457m6865a505maf93d22c5c28f0cc-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-20 23:50             ` Daniel P. Berrange
     [not found]               ` <20070720235007.GA1595-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-07-21  1:41                 ` James Morris
2007-07-20 20:35   ` James Morris

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