From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Anthony Liguori <anthony-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
qemu-devel-qX2TKyscuCcdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: Storing command line options in images
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 22:41:39 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46BCBF73.5060406@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46BCB1DA.6060102-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
Anthony Liguori wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> This is a big effort but a config file is the right long term solution.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> For which use case? management-full or management-less?
>>
>
> Both. A config file will be useful not just for expressing the
> functionality we have today, but also for describing the guest's
> environment in greater detail. For instance, if you want to support a
> bunch of different kinds of embedded systems, it would be very nice if
> the machine description was a config file instead of hard coded such
> that it was easy to tweak what hardware was present for the particular
> embedded system.
>
Maybe I'm dense today. Which use case is this?
>> A managed system will want to supply arguments out of a central
>> database. For a management-less use case, the config file is a hassle.
>>
>
> As long as all options are still settable via command line (or stdio),
> then it's not at all a hassle.
>
Yes. But if you don't plan to use it, why implement it?
My feeling is that config files are outdated. When used with a gui, you
end up writing silly parsers and stuff and still wrecking things
horribly when the the gui writer's expectations don't match reality.
When used without a gui, they increase the amount of details one has to
remember (where's that config file? I renamed my image, did I remember
to update the config file?). They also make upgrading more difficult.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-10 19:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-10 4:55 Storing command line options in images Jorge Lucángeli Obes
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2007-08-10 16:02 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-08-10 17:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
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2007-08-10 18:43 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-08-10 19:41 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
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2007-08-10 20:11 ` Anthony Liguori
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2007-08-11 1:41 ` Jorge Lucángeli Obes
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2007-08-13 8:55 ` Avi Kivity
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2007-08-13 9:19 ` Laurent Vivier
2007-08-13 9:27 ` [kvm-devel] " Christian MICHON
2007-08-14 14:18 ` Markus Hitter
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2007-08-14 14:31 ` [Qemu-devel] " Laurent Vivier
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2007-08-14 19:02 ` Jorge Lucángeli Obes
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2007-08-14 20:07 ` Thiemo Seufer
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2007-08-14 20:46 ` Christian MICHON
2007-08-13 19:39 ` [kvm-devel] " Thiemo Seufer
[not found] ` <20070813193927.GA21215-eH4hzgmiRX8dwXzzRB9H2Q@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-13 20:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Christian MICHON
2007-08-14 3:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-08-14 4:39 ` Jorge Lucángeli Obes
2007-08-14 7:46 ` [kvm-devel] " Laurent Vivier
[not found] ` <46C15DCE.1000205-6ktuUTfB/bM@public.gmane.org>
2007-08-15 21:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Segher Boessenkool
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