From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: expose host CPU features to guests
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2007 10:51:52 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46E3A618.7030505@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070907104738.GA14723-tp2ajI7sM85Y6zH9YvfY1x2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
Jamie Lokier wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> I like this idea but I have some suggestions about the general approach.
>> I think instead of defining another machine type, it would be better to
>> just have a command line option like -cpuid that took a comma separate
>> string of features with "all" meaning all features that the host has.
>>
>
> I like the idea of a flag to enable specific features, but I think
> "host" would be a better name for the features of the host.
>
> "all" seems more appropriate to enable all the features the emulator
> can support, which can include features which the host does not
> support itself.
>
> If it's a comma separated list, it would be good to be able to write
> something like this example, which selects all the host features but
> then overrides it by disabling the psn feature:
>
> -cpuid host,-psn
>
Yes, 'host' and 'all' make more sense the way you describe them from the
emulator perspective.
> Is it intended that these flags will also control the actual features
> which Qemu allows or emulates, or only what cpuid reports to the guest?
>
>
The cpuid features are sufficient (and there's precedent -- some mobile
intel processors support pae but don't report it).
>> I also think it would be nicer to use cpuid() directly instead of
>> attempting to parse /proc/cpuinfo.
>>
>
> Occasionally the features in /proc/cpuinfo differ from what the cpuid
> instruction reports. They are CPU bug workarounds (features disabled
> intentionally even though cpuid reports them), CPU features which
> aren't properly reported (enabled intentionally in cpuinfo), and boot
> flag requests (features disabled due to request from the boot command
> line).
>
> I'm inclined to think the feature list in /proc/cpuinfo is more
> appropriate, for choosing the best set of host features to make
> available to guests. It's unlikely that Qemu itself will duplicate
> the logic of known workarounds for specific, obscure, buggy host CPUs.
>
> There is also /dev/cpu/%d/cpuinfo (for %d = 0, 1, etc.) on some Linux
> distros, I think.
>
Well, the guest will invoke its own workaround logic to disable buggy
features, so I see no issue here.
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2007-09-05 17:45 expose host CPU features to guests danken-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w
[not found] ` <20070905174530.GA3945-iWbx9bcAnq+Hk9JtIoIkgNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-05 19:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-09-05 19:34 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46DF04D5.5000807-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-05 19:44 ` Daniel P. Berrange
[not found] ` <20070905194448.GN5503-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-06 0:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2007-09-06 8:46 ` Re: [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-09-07 10:47 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20070907104738.GA14723-tp2ajI7sM85Y6zH9YvfY1x2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-09 7:51 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
[not found] ` <46E3A618.7030505-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-09 12:47 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20070909124718.GE24240-tp2ajI7sM85Y6zH9YvfY1x2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-09 12:55 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46E3ED2B.6080606-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-09 13:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 13:14 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <20070909130725.GF24240-tp2ajI7sM85Y6zH9YvfY1x2eb7JE58TQ@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-09 15:25 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paul Brook
2007-09-09 15:29 ` [kvm-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-09-09 15:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-09 16:12 ` Paul Brook
[not found] ` <200709091712.15743.paul-qD8j1LwMmJjtCj0u4l0SBw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-09 16:38 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2007-09-10 16:53 ` Jamie Lokier
2007-09-10 7:40 ` expose host CPU features to guests: Take 2 Dan Kenigsberg
[not found] ` <20070910074005.GA26869-iWbx9bcAnq+Hk9JtIoIkgNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-24 17:41 ` expose host CPU features to guests: Take 3 Dan Kenigsberg
[not found] ` <20070924174129.GA4507-iWbx9bcAnq+Hk9JtIoIkgNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 1:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " andrzej zaborowski
[not found] ` <fb249edb0709241828pb6b9fd4v1d1d8d4a3495f040-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 8:48 ` Dan Kenigsberg
[not found] ` <20070925084842.GA14221-iWbx9bcAnq+Hk9JtIoIkgNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46F8CE52.3080502-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 9:19 ` J. Mayer
2007-09-25 9:31 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46F8D577.3020306-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 10:40 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46F8E5A2.30906-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 11:09 ` J. Mayer
2007-09-25 11:36 ` Avi Kivity
[not found] ` <46F8F2B8.1080203-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 12:05 ` Fabrice Bellard
2007-09-25 13:07 ` Jocelyn Mayer
[not found] ` <1190725664.13490.14.camel-JEa2SU7BmVsPEyPTZiGI+UEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 13:12 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-25 13:27 ` Dan Kenigsberg
2007-09-25 12:51 ` Paul Brook
[not found] ` <200709251351.55481.paul-qD8j1LwMmJjtCj0u4l0SBw@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-25 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-07 12:38 ` x86 -cpu option: Take 4 Dan Kenigsberg
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