From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Zachary Amsden <zach-pghWNbHTmq7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org,
Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>,
linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Refactor hypercall infrastructure
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:08:44 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <46EB930C.2000909@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1189827476.5982.143.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
Zachary Amsden wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-09-14 at 16:44 -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>
>> So then each module creates a hypercall page using this magic MSR and
>> the hypervisor has to keep track of it so that it can appropriately
>> change the page on migration. The page can only contain a single
>> instruction or else it cannot be easily changed (or you have to be able
>> to prevent the guest from being migrated while in the hypercall page).
>>
>> We're really talking about identical models. Instead of an MSR, the #GP
>> is what tells the hypervisor to update the instruction. The nice thing
>> about this is that you don't have to keep track of all the current
>> hypercall page locations in the hypervisor.
>>
>
> I agree, multiple hypercall pages is insane. I was thinking more of a
> single hypercall page, fixed in place by the hypervisor, not the kernel.
>
> Then each module can read an MSR saying what VA the hypercall page is
> at, and the hypervisor can simply flip one page to switch architectures.
>
VA as in "Virtual Address"? the ppc people don't have
hypervisor-visible virtual addresses, and the hypervisor (on x86) can't
safely select a virtual address, and ...
That means you need a physical address, so you need a central
initialization routine, and drivers for unmodified OSes can no longer be
self contained.
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-09-14 19:45 [PATCH] Refactor hypercall infrastructure Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <11897991353793-git-send-email-aliguori-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 19:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-09-14 20:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EAF4C6.8090903-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 21:02 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <46EAF6FC.80207-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 21:20 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <1189804847.5982.137.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 21:44 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <46EB00D8.3090903-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 3:37 ` Zachary Amsden
[not found] ` <1189827476.5982.143.camel-cxY/u30q8FloTgUnLF1by8fTvwmfpRNyZeezCHUQhQ4@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 8:08 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-09-15 17:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-09-14 21:22 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EAFBA0.4020503-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 21:46 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <46EB0136.6080105-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 21:52 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EB02BA.6030909-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 22:08 ` Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <46EB0657.40603-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 22:40 ` Nakajima, Jun
[not found] ` <97D612E30E1F88419025B06CB4CF1BE10379EBF9-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-14 23:00 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EB1285.5050807-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 0:10 ` Nakajima, Jun
[not found] ` <97D612E30E1F88419025B06CB4CF1BE10379ED0A-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 0:28 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EB2716.1070908-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 1:04 ` Nakajima, Jun
[not found] ` <97D612E30E1F88419025B06CB4CF1BE10379ED4C-1a9uaKK1+wJcIJlls4ac1rfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 4:53 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EB6556.5020506-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-15 6:11 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-09-15 18:23 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <46EC233B.5010209-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-17 18:14 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-09-17 18:27 ` [kvm-devel] " Anthony Liguori
[not found] ` <46EEC6FE.5060306-r/Jw6+rmf7HQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-17 19:15 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EED256.40801-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-17 19:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2007-09-17 19:15 ` [kvm-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
[not found] ` <46EED250.5080207-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-17 20:52 ` Nakajima, Jun
2007-09-15 8:00 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-15 7:53 ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-15 2:35 ` Rusty Russell
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