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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Farkas Levente <lfarkas-lWVWdrzSO4GHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel <kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: system time
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 12:07:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <46FB80D8.7060308@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46FB7CFB.7020607-lWVWdrzSO4GHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>

Farkas Levente wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>   
>> Farkas Levente wrote:
>>     
>>> Avi Kivity wrote:
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> Haydn Solomon wrote:
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> I know I'm not crazy.. now my host and guest clocks are in sync. I'll
>>>>> leave the guest running for a while and see if it eventually goes
>>>>> ahead of host.
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> Please do this both with and without -no-kvm-irqchip.  The code paths
>>>> are very different.
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> the simple question does all the guest must be the same system time as
>>> the host? and if it's not the case then it's a bug? or it can happened
>>> with reason?
>>>   
>>>       
>> Difficult to say.  I think that some drift is inevitable as the guest
>> and host will calibrate differently.
>>     
>
> in the current version or even in long term?
>   

It's a fundamental issue due to how PCs do time.  They run a calibration
look during bootup, and if that's not 100% accurate, dirft will occur.


For the long term the solution is paravirtualized time.

> this means it's better to run ntpd on all guests even if it's running on
> the host:-((
>   

I think there are issues with running ntp on the guest due to tsc being
very inaccurate on virtualized guests.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-09-27 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-26 13:20 system time Farkas Levente
     [not found] ` <46FA5CB2.70206-lWVWdrzSO4GHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 13:40   ` Haydn Solomon
     [not found]     ` <b75785ba0709260640v5ef01ca7tff94ec7c8dad44cf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-26 14:02       ` Haydn Solomon
     [not found]         ` <b75785ba0709260702rb69ab8bldaba9793332223e7-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27  9:42           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <46FB7B0B.5050907-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27  9:40               ` Farkas Levente
     [not found]                 ` <46FB7AA6.5050708-lWVWdrzSO4GHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27  9:55                   ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                     ` <46FB7DFF.6020102-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27  9:50                       ` Farkas Levente
     [not found]                         ` <46FB7CFB.7020607-lWVWdrzSO4GHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27 10:00                           ` Gildas
2007-09-27 10:07                           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
     [not found]                             ` <46FB80D8.7060308-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27 10:13                               ` Farkas Levente
     [not found]                                 ` <46FB823F.5000300-lWVWdrzSO4GHXe+LvDLADg@public.gmane.org>
2007-09-27 10:45                                   ` Avi Kivity
2007-09-27 18:26                                   ` Simon Gao

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