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From: Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
To: Glauber de Oliveira Costa
	<glommer-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kvm-devel
	<kvm-devel-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Paravirt timer for KVM
Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:31:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <471468EE.1030706@qumranet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5d6222a80710151109m5376449foc6be5b687c469a2b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

Glauber de Oliveira Costa wrote:
> On 10/15/07, Avi Kivity <avi-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>   
>> If we want to make the clocksource useful for Windows we need to go
>> through the apic as that will allow the TPR to mask the interrupt when
>> Windows isn't ready to receive it.  However I don't know whether it is
>> possible to integrate a paravirt clocksource into Windows.
>>     
>
> My politically-correct side told me to say that the solution that
> works also in Windows is the best one ;-)
>
>   

In this case, I'm not at all sure Windows can benefit from a paravirt
timesource, so it might be better to concentrate on Linux. I'll ask the
Windows people here.

>> For Linux, we might as well go further and provide a completely
>> paravirtualized irqchip instead of trying to integrate a paravirtualized
>> clocksource into a fullyvirtualized irqchip.
>>
>>     
>
> Yes, definitely. In your opinion, what's the size of the gap between
> the "we can", and the "we should" here?
>   

At present the APIC requires an exit for each level-triggered interrupt.
We could reduce the number of exits to zero given sufficient cleverness.
This would be beneficial to non-streaming I/O workloads.

So yes, I think it's worthwhile.

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-16  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-12 16:08 [RFC] Paravirt timer for KVM Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found] ` <5d6222a80710120908s6b1f5845head84e7b7a463cd1-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-12 18:10   ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]     ` <470FB8AB.9030101-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 16:58       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]         ` <5d6222a80710150958y31338c2ag3a391390b13788da-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 17:07           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]             ` <47139E6F.7030704-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 18:09               ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]                 ` <5d6222a80710151109m5376449foc6be5b687c469a2b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-16  7:31                   ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2007-10-12 18:39   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
     [not found]     ` <470FBF58.2080701-TSDbQ3PG+2Y@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-12 18:58       ` Anthony Liguori
2007-10-15 17:15       ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-12 19:48   ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-10-12 20:02     ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]       ` <470FD2CA.1000702-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-12 21:55         ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-10-12 22:07           ` Anthony Liguori
     [not found]             ` <470FF036.6080803-rdkfGonbjUSkNkDKm+mE6A@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15  4:04               ` Dong, Eddie
     [not found]                 ` <10EA09EFD8728347A513008B6B0DA77A023A6DCE-wq7ZOvIWXbNpB2pF5aRoyrfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 16:01                   ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-10-15 16:47                     ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                       ` <47139994.4030606-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 23:05                         ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-10-16  8:15                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                             ` <4714731D.4040408-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-16 10:27                               ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-16  9:45                           ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                             ` <4714882C.2050504-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-16 10:03                               ` Dong, Eddie
2007-10-15 17:52                   ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]                     ` <5d6222a80710151052j37f0561dn6dbb5b07f6f697d1-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-16  7:17                       ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-15 17:38           ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-15  8:41         ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]           ` <471327C7.8060304-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15  9:07             ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]               ` <47132DCF.3060906-atKUWr5tajBWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15  9:56                 ` Gerd Hoffmann
     [not found]                   ` <47133957.20508-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 10:14                     ` Gildas
2007-10-15 11:02                     ` Carsten Otte
     [not found]                       ` <471348B1.30300-tA70FqPdS9bQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 16:31                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-15 18:03                         ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-15 18:00                     ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]                       ` <5d6222a80710151100p63e8e9aata79b006b43f6c37e-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-16  7:20                         ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-16  7:40                         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2007-10-15 17:53                 ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]     ` <5d6222a80710151029y288fc65bs3d325d5c8d1f039c@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <1192489814.22523.36.camel@basalt>
2007-10-16  1:26         ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
2007-10-12 22:09   ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-10-15 17:48     ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]       ` <5d6222a80710151048t22e747l42106a6507c811c6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-15 22:54         ` Hollis Blanchard
2007-10-16  1:15           ` Glauber de Oliveira Costa
     [not found]             ` <5d6222a80710151815m2330c8b7ocf4fc352954a551c-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2007-10-16  9:47               ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-16  7:14         ` Avi Kivity
2007-10-16  8:41   ` Dong, Eddie

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